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If > hotplug is not a requirement, we can loosen the restrictions to allow > 1GB gigantic pages in ZONE_MOVABLE. > > Since 1GB can be difficult to migrate / has impacts on compaction / > defragmentation, we don't enable this by default. Notably, 1GB pages > can only be migrated if another 1GB page is available - so hot-unplug > will fail if such a page cannot be found. > > However, since there are scenarios where gigantic pages are migratable, > we should allow use of these on movable regions. > > When not valid 1GB is available for migration, hot-unplug will retry > indefinitely (or until interrupted). For example: > > echo 0 > node0/hugepages/..-1GB/nr_hugepages # clear node0 1GB pages > echo 1 > node1/hugepages/..-1GB/nr_hugepages # reserve node1 1GB page > ./alloc_huge_node1 & # Allocate a 1GB page on node1 > ./node1_offline & # attempt to offline all node1 memory > echo 1 > node0/hugepages/..-1GB/nr_hugepages # reserve node0 1GB page > > In this example, node1_offline will block indefinitely until the final > step, when a node0 1GB page is made available. > > Note: Boot-time CMA is not possible for driver-managed hotplug memory, > as CMA requires the memory to be registered as SystemRAM at boot time. > Additionally, 1GB huge pages are not supported by THP. > > Cc: David Hildenbrand > Cc: Mel Gorman > Cc: Michal Hocko > Suggested-by: David Rientjes > Signed-off-by: Gregory Price > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20180201193132.Hk7vI_xaU%25akpm@linux-foundation.org/ Acked-by: David Rientjes Thanks for pursuing this, Gregory.