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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Ulrich Weigand <Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Mueller <mimu@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/42] mm:gup/writeback: add callbacks for inaccessible pages
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 12:10:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd33cc1a-214d-b949-8f5e-9c2d40a8e518@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <107a8a72-b745-26f2-5805-c4d99ce77b35@redhat.com>



On 17.02.20 10:14, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 14.02.20 23:26, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> From: Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>
>>
>> With the introduction of protected KVM guests on s390 there is now a
>> concept of inaccessible pages. These pages need to be made accessible
>> before the host can access them.
>>
>> While cpu accesses will trigger a fault that can be resolved, I/O
>> accesses will just fail.  We need to add a callback into architecture
>> code for places that will do I/O, namely when writeback is started or
>> when a page reference is taken.
>>
>> This is not only to enable paging, file backing etc, it is also
>> necessary to protect the host against a malicious user space. For
>> example a bad QEMU could simply start direct I/O on such protected
>> memory.  We do not want userspace to be able to trigger I/O errors and
>> thus we the logic is "whenever somebody accesses that page (gup) or
>> doing I/O, make sure that this page can be accessed. When the guest
>> tries to access that page we will wait in the page fault handler for
>> writeback to have finished and for the page_ref to be the expected
>> value.
>>
>> If wanted by others, the callbacks can be extended with error handlin
>> and a parameter from where this is called.
> 
> s/handlin/handling/

ack. 
> 
> One last question from my side:
> 
> Why is it OK to ignore errors here. IOW, why not squash "[PATCH v2
> 39/42] example for future extension: mm:gup/writeback: add callbacks for
> inaccessible pages: error cases" into this patch.

I can certainly squash this in. But I have never heard feedback from the 
memory management people if they would prefer the patch as-is (no overhead
at all for !s390) or already with the error handling. 
> 
> I can see in patch "[PATCH v2 05/42] s390/mm: provide memory management
> functions for protected KVM guests", that the call can fail for various
> reasons. That puzzles me a bit - what would happen if any of that fails?

The convert _to_ secure has error handling. uv_convert_from_secure (the
one that is used for arch_make_page_accessible can only fail if we mess up,
e.g. an "export" on memory that we have donated to the ultravisor.


> Or will it actually never fail for s390x (and all that error handling in
> arch_make_page_accessible() is essentially dead code in real life?)

So yes, if everything is setup properly this should not fail in real life
and only we have a kernel (or firmware) bug.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-14 22:26 [PATCH v2 00/42] KVM: s390: Add support for protected VMs Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-14 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/42] mm:gup/writeback: add callbacks for inaccessible pages Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-17  9:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-17 11:10     ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2020-02-18  8:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-18 15:46         ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-18 16:02           ` Will Deacon
2020-02-18 16:15             ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-18 21:35               ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-19  8:31                 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/42] s390/mm: provide memory management functions for protected KVM guests Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-17 10:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-17 11:28     ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-17 12:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-02-14 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/42] s390/mm: add (non)secure page access exceptions handlers Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-14 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 39/42] example for future extension: mm:gup/writeback: add callbacks for inaccessible pages: error cases Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-18 16:25   ` Will Deacon
2020-02-18 16:30     ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-18 16:33       ` Will Deacon
2020-02-14 22:26 ` [PATCH v2 40/42] example for future extension: mm:gup/writeback: add callbacks for inaccessible pages: source indication Christian Borntraeger
2020-02-17 14:15   ` Ulrich Weigand
2020-02-17 14:38     ` Christian Borntraeger

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