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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: i3k8xjeb1xmyg7z8qa6pkscg3xnqho84 X-Rspam-User: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5CA9540005 X-Rspamd-Server: rspam06 X-HE-Tag: 1747835108-287416 X-HE-Meta: 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 4hW+XdJ4 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 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 21.05.25 15:32, Fuad Tabba wrote: > Hi David, > > On Wed, 21 May 2025 at 14:22, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> >> On 21.05.25 15:15, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>> Hi David, >>> >>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 at 13:44, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> >>>> On 21.05.25 12:29, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 at 11:26, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21.05.25 12:12, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>>>>>> Hi David, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 at 09:05, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13.05.25 18:34, Fuad Tabba wrote: >>>>>>>>> Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64. For now, it applies to all >>>>>>>>> VMs in arm64 that use guest_memfd. In the future, new VM types >>>>>>>>> can restrict this via kvm_arch_gmem_supports_shared_mem(). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Fuad Tabba >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 10 ++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig | 1 + >>>>>>>>> 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>>>> index 08ba91e6fb03..2514779f5131 100644 >>>>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h >>>>>>>>> @@ -1593,4 +1593,14 @@ static inline bool kvm_arch_has_irq_bypass(void) >>>>>>>>> return true; >>>>>>>>> } >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +static inline bool kvm_arch_supports_gmem(struct kvm *kvm) >>>>>>>>> +{ >>>>>>>>> + return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM); >>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>> +static inline bool kvm_arch_vm_supports_gmem_shared_mem(struct kvm *kvm) >>>>>>>>> +{ >>>>>>>>> + return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_SHARED_MEM); >>>>>>>>> +} >>>>>>>>> + >>>>>>>>> #endif /* __ARM64_KVM_HOST_H__ */ >>>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>>>> index 096e45acadb2..8c1e1964b46a 100644 >>>>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig >>>>>>>>> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ menuconfig KVM >>>>>>>>> select HAVE_KVM_VCPU_RUN_PID_CHANGE >>>>>>>>> select SCHED_INFO >>>>>>>>> select GUEST_PERF_EVENTS if PERF_EVENTS >>>>>>>>> + select KVM_GMEM_SHARED_MEM >>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>> Support hosting virtualized guest machines. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do we have to reject somewhere if we are given a guest_memfd that was >>>>>>>> *not* created using the SHARED flag? Or will existing checks already >>>>>>>> reject that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We don't reject, but I don't think we need to. A user can create a >>>>>>> guest_memfd that's private in arm64, it would just be useless. >>>>>> >>>>>> But the arm64 fault routine would not be able to handle that properly, no? >>>>> >>>>> Actually it would. The function user_mem_abort() doesn't care whether >>>>> it's private or shared. It would fault it into the guest correctly >>>>> regardless. >>>> >>>> >>>> I think what I meant is that: if it's !shared (private only), shared >>>> accesses (IOW all access without CoCo) should be taken from the user >>>> space mapping. >>>> >>>> But user_mem_abort() would blindly go to kvm_gmem_get_pfn() because >>>> "is_gmem = kvm_slot_has_gmem(memslot) = true". >>> >>> Yes, since it is a gmem-backed slot. >>> >>>> In other words, arm64 would have to *ignore* guest_memfd that does not >>>> support shared? >>>> >>>> That's why I was wondering whether we should just immediately refuse >>>> such guest_memfds. >>> >>> My thinking is that if a user deliberately creates a >>> guest_memfd-backed slot without designating it as being sharable, then >>> either they would find out when they try to map that memory to the >>> host userspace (mapping it would fail), or it could be that they >>> deliberately want to set up a VM with memslots that not mappable at >>> all by the host. >> >> Hm. But that would meant that we interpret "private" memory as a concept >> that is not understood by the VM. Because the VM does not know what >> "private" memory is ... >> >>> Perhaps to add some layer of security (although a >>> very flimsy one, since it's not a confidential guest). >> >> Exactly my point. If you don't want to mmap it then ... don't mmap it :) >> >>> >>> I'm happy to a check to prevent this. The question is, how to do it >>> exactly (I assume it would be in kvm_gmem_create())? Would it be >>> arch-specific, i.e., prevent arm64 from creating non-shared >>> guest_memfd backed memslots? Or do it by VM type? Even if we do it by >>> VM-type it would need to be arch-specific, since we allow private >>> guest_memfd slots for the default VM in x86, but we wouldn't for >>> arm64. >>> >>> We could add another function, along the lines of >>> kvm_arch_supports_gmem_only_shared_mem(), but considering that it >>> actually works, and (arguably) would behave as intended, I'm not sure >>> if it's worth the complexity. >>> >>> What do you think? >> >> My thinking was to either block this at slot creation time or at >> guest_memfd creation time. And we should probably block that for other >> VM types as well that do not support private memory? >> >> I mean, creating guest_memfd for private memory when there is no concept >> of private memory for the VM is ... weird, no? :) > > Actually, I could add this as an arch-specific check in > arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c:kvm_arch_prepare_memory_region(). That way, core > KVM/guest_memfd code doesn't need to handle this arm64-specific behavior. > > Does that sound good? Yes, but only do so if you agree. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb