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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] mm: document semantics of ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2020 12:04:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbca0807-7bd0-02cc-fe5a-920d5524a9b0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200804100333.GC8243@kernel.org>

On 04.08.20 12:03, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 11:55:10AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 04.08.20 11:33, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 09:24:08AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Let's document what ZONE_MOVABLE means, how it's used, and which special
>>>> cases we have regarding unmovable pages (memory offlining vs. migration /
>>>> allocations).
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>>>> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>>>> Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
>>>> Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
>>>> Cc: Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> Several nits below, othersize
>>>
>>> Acked-by: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>  include/linux/mmzone.h | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> index f6f884970511d..600d449e7d9e9 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> @@ -372,6 +372,40 @@ enum zone_type {
>>>>  	 */
>>>>  	ZONE_HIGHMEM,
>>>>  #endif
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * ZONE_MOVABLE is similar to ZONE_NORMAL, except that it *primarily*
>>>> +	 * only contains movable pages. Main use cases are to make memory
>>>
>>> "Primarily only" sounds awkward. Maybe
>>>
>>> 	... except that it only contains movable pages with few exceptional
>>> 	cases described below. 
>>>
>>> And then 
>>>
>>> 	Main use cases for ZONE_MOVABLE are ...
>>
>> Ack!
>>
>>>
>>>> +	 * offlining more likely to succeed, and to locally limit unmovable
>>>> +	 * allocations - e.g., to increase the number of THP/huge pages.
>>>> +	 * Notable special cases are:
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * 1. Pinned pages: (Long-term) pinning of movable pages might
>>>
>>> 		            ^long, capital L looked out of place for me
>>
>> Ack!
>>
>>>
>>>> +	 *    essentially turn such pages unmovable. Memory offlining might
>>>> +	 *    retry a long time.
>>>> +	 * 2. memblock allocations: kernelcore/movablecore setups might create
>>>> +	 *    situations where ZONE_MOVABLE contains unmovable allocations
>>>> +	 *    after boot. Memory offlining and allocations fail early.
>>>> +	 * 3. Memory holes: Such pages cannot be allocated. Applies only to
>>>> +	 *    boot memory, not hotplugged memory. Memory offlining and
>>>> +	 *    allocations fail early.
>>>
>>> I would clarify where page struct for abscent memory come from
>>
>> Something like:
>>
>> Memory holes: We might have a memmap for memory holes, for example, if
> 
>                ^w ;-)
> 
>> we have sections that are only partially System RAM. Such pages cannot
>> be ...
> 
> How about
> 
> ... sections that are only partially populated 
> 
> ?

Yeah, shorter. Thanks!


-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2020-08-04 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-04  7:24 [PATCH v3 0/6] mm / virtio-mem: support ZONE_MOVABLE David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm/page_isolation: don't dump_page(NULL) in set_migratetype_isolate() David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm/page_alloc: tweak comments in has_unmovable_pages() David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm/page_isolation: drop WARN_ON_ONCE() in set_migratetype_isolate() David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm/page_isolation: cleanup set_migratetype_isolate() David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] virtio-mem: don't special-case ZONE_MOVABLE David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  7:24 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] mm: document semantics of ZONE_MOVABLE David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04  9:33   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-04  9:55     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-04 10:03       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-04 10:04         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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