From: "guanghui.fgh" <guanghuifeng@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, jianyong.wu@arm.com,
james.morse@arm.com, quic_qiancai@quicinc.com,
christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu, jonathan@marek.ca,
mark.rutland@arm.com, thunder.leizhen@huawei.com,
anshuman.khandual@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rppt@kernel.org,
geert+renesas@glider.be, linux-mm@kvack.org,
yaohongbo@linux.alibaba.com,
alikernel-developer@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] arm64: mm: fix linear mem mapping access performance degradation
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 20:27:03 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <db979439-8a51-d6d7-cd09-b5b7c1f93f48@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220705121115.GB1012@willie-the-truck>
在 2022/7/5 20:11, Will Deacon 写道:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2022 at 08:07:07PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/7/5 17:52, Will Deacon 写道:
>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 07:09:23PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 18:38, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 10:34:07PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 在 2022/7/4 22:23, Will Deacon 写道:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2022 at 10:11:27PM +0800, guanghui.fgh wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> Namely, it's need to use non block/section mapping for crashkernel mem
>>>>>>>> before shringking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, yes, but we can change arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres() not to do
>>>>>>> that if we're leaving the thing mapped, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we should use arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres for crashkernel mem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because when invalid crashkernel mem pagetable, there is no chance to rd/wr
>>>>>> the crashkernel mem by mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we don't use arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres to invalid crashkernel mem
>>>>>> pagetable, there maybe some write operations to these mem by mistake which
>>>>>> may cause crashkernel boot error and vmcore saving error.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really buy this line of reasoning. The entire main kernel is
>>>>> writable, so why do we care about protecting the crashkernel so much? The
>>>>> _code_ to launch the crash kernel is writable! If you care about preventing
>>>>> writes to memory which should not be writable, then you should use
>>>>> rodata=full.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is not entirely true - the core kernel text and rodata are
>>>> remapped r/o in the linear map, whereas all module code and rodata are
>>>> left writable when rodata != full.
>>>
>>> Yes, sorry, you're quite right. The kernel text is only writable if
>>> rodata=off.
>>>
>>> But I still think it makes sense to protect the crashkernel only if
>>> rodata=full (which is the default on arm64) as this allows us to rely
>>> on page mappings and I think fits well with what we do for modules.
>>>
>>>> But the conclusion is the same, imo: if you can't be bothered to
>>>> protect a good chunk of the code and rodata that the kernel relies on,
>>>> why should the crashkernel be treated any differently?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Will
>> Thanks.
>>
>> 1.The rodata full is harm to the performance and has been disabled in-house.
>>
>> 2.When using crashkernel with rodata non full, the kernel also will use non
>> block/section mapping which cause high d-TLB miss and degrade performance
>> greatly.
>> This patch fix it to use block/section mapping as far as possible.
>>
>> bool can_set_direct_map(void)
>> {
>> return rodata_full || debug_pagealloc_enabled();
>> }
>>
>> map_mem:
>> if (can_set_direct_map() || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KFENCE))
>> flags |= NO_BLOCK_MAPPINGS | NO_CONT_MAPPINGS;
>>
>> 3.When rodata full is disabled, crashkernel also need protect(keep
>> arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres using).
>> I think crashkernel should't depend on radata full(Maybe other architecture
>> don't support radata full now).
>
> I think this is going round in circles :/
>
> As a first step, can we please leave the crashkernel mapped unless
> rodata=full? It should be a much simpler patch to write, review and maintain
> and it gives you the performance you want when crashkernel is being used.
>
> Will
Thanks.
There is a circle.
1.When the rodata is non full, there will be some error when calling
arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres(BUG_ON(pud_huge(*pud))) now.
It's also need non-block/section mapping for crashkernel mem.
2.In other words, maybe we should change
arch_kexec_[un]protect_crashkres to support block/section mapping which
can leave crashkernel block/section mapping.
But when we shrink the crashkernel mem, we also need to split some
block/section mapping(part mem for crashkernel, the left for the normal
kernel).
As a result, maybe we build crashkernel mem with non-block/section
mapping is appropriate(as this patch doing).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-05 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-02 15:57 Guanghui Feng
2022-07-04 10:35 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 10:58 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 11:14 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 12:05 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 13:15 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 13:41 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:11 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 14:23 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 14:34 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-04 16:38 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-04 17:09 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-05 8:35 ` Baoquan He
2022-07-05 9:52 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:07 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 12:11 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-05 12:27 ` guanghui.fgh [this message]
2022-07-05 12:56 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 13:17 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-05 15:02 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 15:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 15:57 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 17:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-05 20:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06 2:49 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 7:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 10:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-06 13:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-06 15:18 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:30 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-06 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-07-07 17:02 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-08 12:28 ` [PATCH RESEND " guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 13:44 ` [PATCH v5] " Guanghui Feng
2022-07-10 14:32 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-10 15:33 ` guanghui.fgh
2022-07-18 13:10 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-25 6:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2022-07-05 2:44 ` [PATCH v4] " guanghui.fgh
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