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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Russell King' <linux@armlinux.org.uk>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 12:07:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db930076c837456f999daee5cb76735f@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfwYx/8k8FVONg6+@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

From: Russell King
> Sent: 21 March 2024 11:24
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:22:30AM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > How aggressively does the compiler optimise 'noreturn' functions?
> 
> I've seen cases where the compiler emits a BL instruction as the very
> last thing in the function, and nothing after it.

I've also seen the compiler defer generating a stack frame until
after an initial conditional.
That might mean you can get the BL in the middle of a function
but where the following instruction is for the 'no stack frame'
side of the branch.
That is very likely to break any stack offset calculations. 

> This is where the problem lies - because the link register value
> created by the BL instruction will point to the instruction after the
> BL which will _not_ part of the function that invoked the BL. That
> will probably cause issues for the ELF unwinder, which means this
> issue probably goes beyond _just_ printing the function name.

Isn't this already in the unwinder?
A BL itself isn't going to fault with PC = next-instruction.

For pretty much all code isn't *(LR-4) going to be BL?
On arm that is probably testable.
(It is pretty much impossible to detect a ACLL on x86.)
If it is a direct BL then you'd normally expect to the be
a call the function containing the current 'PC'.
The obvious exception is if there was a tail call, and printing
the called address would then be useful.
(It might help with leaf functions that don't generate a stack frame.)

I remember issues with the solaris sparc backtrace that used to
get confused by leaf functions...

> I have vague memories that Ard has been involved in the unwinder,
> maybe he could comment on this problem? Maybe we need the unwinder
> itself to do the correction? I also wonder whether we should only
> do the correction if we detect that we're pointing at the first
> instruction of a function, and the previous instruction in the
> text segment was a BL.

It might be enough to depend on whether the address is that of a
fault (where the instruction could be retried) or from a call/trap
instruction where it will be the following instruction.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04  1:39 [PATCH] usercopy: delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-04 15:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-03-04 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05  3:31     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  9:32       ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05 11:38         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05 17:58           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-06  4:00             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-06  9:52             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-06 16:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-09 14:58               ` David Laight
2024-03-18  4:01             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  2:54   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  3:12     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:19 ` [PATCH] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-20  3:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-20  3:46         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  8:45   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 15:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:40       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21  9:44         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-21 10:22           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:07               ` David Laight [this message]
2024-03-21 12:22                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:57                   ` David Laight
2024-03-21 13:08                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 14:37                       ` David Laight
2024-03-21 14:56                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 15:20                           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 15:33                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 22:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-03-22  0:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  9:24                   ` David Laight
2024-03-22  9:52                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22 12:54                       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-22 14:16                       ` David Laight
2024-03-20 15:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:42   ` Russell King (Oracle)

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