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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] xfs: add kmem_alloc_io()
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 16:26:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db4a1dae-d69a-0df4-4a71-02c2954ecd75@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190822131739.GB1119@dread.disaster.area>

On 8/22/19 3:17 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 02:19:04PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 8/22/19 2:07 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 01:14:30PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> > 
>> > No, the problem is this (using kmalloc as a general term for
>> > allocation, whether it be kmalloc, kmem_cache_alloc, alloc_page, etc)
>> > 
>> >    some random kernel code
>> >     kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL)
>> >      reclaim
>> >      PF_MEMALLOC
>> >      shrink_slab
>> >       xfs_inode_shrink
>> >        XFS_ILOCK
>> >         xfs_buf_allocate_memory()
>> >          kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL)
>> > 
>> > And so locks on inodes in reclaim are seen below reclaim. Then
>> > somewhere else we have:
>> > 
>> >    some high level read-only xfs code like readdir
>> >     XFS_ILOCK
>> >      xfs_buf_allocate_memory()
>> >       kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL)
>> >        reclaim
>> > 
>> > And this one throws false positive lockdep warnings because we
>> > called into reclaim with XFS_ILOCK held and GFP_KERNEL alloc
>> 
>> OK, and what exactly makes this positive a false one? Why can't it continue like
>> the first example where reclaim leads to another XFS_ILOCK, thus deadlock?
> 
> Because above reclaim we only have operations being done on
> referenced inodes, and below reclaim we only have unreferenced
> inodes. We never lock the same inode both above and below reclaim
> at the same time.
> 
> IOWs, an operation above reclaim cannot see, access or lock
> unreferenced inodes, except in inode write clustering, and that uses
> trylocks so cannot deadlock with reclaim.
> 
> An operation below reclaim cannot see, access or lock referenced
> inodes except during inode write clustering, and that uses trylocks
> so cannot deadlock with code above reclaim.

Thanks for elaborating. Perhaps lockdep experts (not me) would know how to
express that. If not possible, then replacing GFP_NOFS with __GFP_NOLOCKDEP
should indeed suppress the warning, while allowing FS reclaim.

> FWIW, I'm trying to make the inode writeback clustering go away from
> reclaim at the moment, so even that possibility is going away soon.
> That will change everything to trylocks in reclaim context, so
> lockdep is going to stop tracking it entirely.

That's also a nice solution :)

> Hmmm - maybe we're getting to the point where we actually
> don't need GFP_NOFS/PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS at all in XFS anymore.....
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-22 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190821083820.11725-1-david@fromorbit.com>
     [not found] ` <20190821083820.11725-3-david@fromorbit.com>
     [not found]   ` <20190821232440.GB24904@infradead.org>
     [not found]     ` <20190822003131.GR1119@dread.disaster.area>
2019-08-22  7:59       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-22  8:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-22  9:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-22 10:14             ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-22 11:14               ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-22 12:07                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-22 12:19                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-08-22 13:17                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-08-22 14:26                       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2019-08-26 12:21                         ` Michal Hocko

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