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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	brauner@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
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	kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com, jdduke@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/5] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_MOVE ioctl test
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 16:27:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <daf9f834-c79d-4f8c-9248-b0b232017732@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f3081d52-8bbc-4bc7-96d4-b086ca91975a@nvidia.com>

On 11.12.23 21:11, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 12/11/23 12:01, Mark Brown wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 07:00:32PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> On 11.12.23 18:32, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 05:53:59PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>
>>>>> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20231209020144.244759-1-jhubbard@nvidia.com
>>
>>>> I mean, I guess people who don't want to install the headers are just
>>>> not going to be able to build a bunch of tests?  There definitely are a
>>>> bunch of tests where it's not needed so I can see why people would not
>>>> like being forced to do the headers step if they're only interested in
>>>> those tests.
>>
>>> Yes. And before that, people mostly had no clue that headers had to be
>>> installed in order to compile successfully.
>>
>>> So maybe a warning to give at least some hint might be reasonable.
>>
>> That sounds sensible, especially if we could arrange to flag when the
>> specific tests being built need it.
> 
> 
> But the end result is messy: not everything builds in some cases. If
> instead we went back to the little ifdef snippets, such as this (from
> v5.1):
> 
> hugepage-shm.c:
> 
>       #ifndef SHM_HUGETLB
>       #define SHM_HUGETLB 04000
>       #endif
> 
> ...then with a bit of one-time, manual effort, we could get everything
> to work at all times. And that seems better, doesn't it?

I'm not a fan of fixing up host headers on a case-per-case basis using 
ifdefs. It makes the tests harder to read, write and maintain.

We do have the proper headers in the tree, just not in an consumable way 
for the tests.

Ideally, we'd either carry our own "consumable" version in the tree, or 
are able to convert the headers under the hood and place them in a 
directory where we won't have to dirty the tree -- and only tests that 
need these headers (e.g., mm selftests) will perform that conversion and 
include them.

I usually build my stuff in-tree, so I don't really have a lot of 
experience with out-of-tree selftest builds and the whole kernel header 
inclusion (and how we could avoid the "make headers" and place the 
headers somewhere else).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 10:36 [PATCH v6 0/5] userfaultfd move option Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] mm/rmap: support move to different root anon_vma in folio_move_anon_rmap() Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_MOVE uABI Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-19 18:57   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-04-19 19:25     ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-04-21 17:16       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-22  3:58         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-04-22  7:19           ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-04-23  1:15             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] selftests/mm: call uffd_test_ctx_clear at the end of the test Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] selftests/mm: add uffd_test_case_ops to allow test case-specific operations Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-06 10:36 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_MOVE ioctl test Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-10 14:23   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11  1:01     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11  3:04       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 11:15         ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 12:03           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 12:24             ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:15               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:25                 ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:29                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:34                     ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:43                       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-12-11 16:32                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 16:41                   ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 16:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 17:32                       ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 18:00                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-11 20:01                           ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 20:11                             ` John Hubbard
2023-12-12 15:27                               ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-12-12 19:39                                 ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 18:46                   ` John Hubbard
2023-12-11 20:21                     ` Mark Brown
2023-12-11 20:29                       ` John Hubbard
2023-12-12 15:12                         ` Mark Brown
2023-12-13  2:14                           ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  3:58                             ` Muhammad Usama Anjum
2023-12-13  5:52                               ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  5:55                                 ` John Hubbard
2023-12-13  9:59                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-13 22:01                                     ` John Hubbard
2023-12-14  9:02                                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-12-13 14:00                               ` Mark Brown

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