linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: Donet Tom <donettom@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	rafael@kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Ritesh Harjani <ritesh.list@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] driver/base: Optimize memory block registration to reduce boot time
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 12:36:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da921072-64a8-4ef1-b583-763406e57e8b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aBiGquz1Exx8KUqq@localhost.localdomain>

On 05.05.25 11:36, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 10:12:48AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Assume you hotplug the second CPU. The node is already registered/online, so
>> who does the register_cpu_under_node() call?
>>
>> It's register_cpu() I guess? But no idea in which order that is called with
>> node onlining.
>>
>> The code has to be cleaned up such that onlining a node does not traverse
>> any cpus / memory.
>>
>> Whoever adds a CPU / memory *after onlining the node* must register the
>> device manually under the *now online* node.
> 
> So, I think this is the sequence of events:
> 
> - hotplug cpu:
>    acpi_processor_hotadd_init
>     register_cpu
>      register_cpu_under_node
> 
>    online_store
>     device_online()->dev_bus_online()
>      cpu_subsys->online()
>       cpu_subsys_online
>        cpu_device_up
>         cpu_up
>          try_online_node  <- brings node online
>           ...
>           register_one_node <- registers cpu under node
>          _cpu_up

My thinking was, whether we can simply move the 
register_cpu_under_node() after the try_online_node(). See below 
regarding early.

And then, remove the !node_online check from register_cpu_under_node().

But it's all complicated, because for memory, we link a memory block to 
the node (+set the node online) when it gets added, not when it gets 
onlined.

For CPUs, we seem to be creating the link + set the node online when the 
CPU gets onlined.

> 
> The first time we hotplug a cpu to the node, note that
> register_cpu()->register_cpu_under_node() will bail out as node is still
> offline, so only cpu's sysfs will be created but they will not be linked
> to the node.
 > Later, online_store()->...->cpu_subsys_online()->..->cpu_up() will 
take> care of 1) onlining the node and 2) register the cpu to the node (so,
> link the sysfs).


And only if it actually gets onlined I assume.

> 
> The second time we hotplug a cpu,
> register_cpu()->register_cpu_under_node() will do its job as the node is
> already onlined.
> And we will not be calling register_one_node() from __try_online_node()
> because of the same reason.
> 
> The thing that bothers me is having register_cpu_under_node() spread
> around.

Right.

> I think that ideally, we should only be calling register_cpu_under_node()
> from register_cpu(), but we have this kinda of (sort of weird?) relation
> that even if we hotplug the cpu, but we do not online it, the numa node
> will remain online, and so we cannot do the linking part (cpu <-> node),
> so we could not really only have register_cpu_under_node() in
> register_cpu(), which is the hot-add part, but we also need it in the
> cpu_up()->try_online_node() which is the online part.

Maybe one could handle CPUs similar to how we handle it with memory: 
node gets onlined + link created as soon as we add the CPU, not when we 
online it.

But likely there is a reason why we do it like that today ...

> 
> And we cannot also remove the register_cpu_under_node() from
> register_cpu() because it is used in other paths (e.g: at boot time ).

Ah, so in that case we don't call cpu_up ... hm.

Of course, we can always detect the context (early vs. hotplug). Maybe, 
we should split the early vs. hotplug case up much earlier.

register_cpu_early() / register_cpu_hotplug() ... maybe

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-05 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-03  5:40 Donet Tom
2025-05-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] driver/base: remove register_mem_block_under_node_early() Donet Tom
2025-05-03 13:10   ` Zi Yan
2025-05-03  5:40 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] drivers/base : Rename register_memory_blocks_under_node() and remove context argument Donet Tom
2025-05-03 13:10   ` Zi Yan
2025-05-03 13:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] driver/base: Optimize memory block registration to reduce boot time Zi Yan
2025-05-04 11:09 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-04 16:34   ` Donet Tom
2025-05-04 20:03     ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-05 14:05       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-05  7:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05  7:28       ` Oscar Salvador
2025-05-05  7:38         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05  7:53           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-05  8:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 13:24               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-08  9:18                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 15:40                   ` Donet Tom
2025-05-09 21:10                     ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-11  6:40                       ` Donet Tom
2025-05-11  5:39                     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-11 12:33                       ` Donet Tom
2025-05-05  7:57           ` Oscar Salvador
2025-05-05  8:12             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05  9:36               ` Oscar Salvador
2025-05-05 10:36                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-05-05 12:51                   ` Donet Tom
2025-05-05 13:02                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-05 16:40                       ` Donet Tom
2025-05-05 13:07                   ` Oscar Salvador

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=da921072-64a8-4ef1-b583-763406e57e8b@redhat.com \
    --to=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=alison.schofield@intel.com \
    --cc=dakr@kernel.org \
    --cc=dave.jiang@intel.com \
    --cc=donettom@linux.ibm.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=osalvador@suse.de \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=ritesh.list@gmail.com \
    --cc=rppt@kernel.org \
    --cc=yury.norov@gmail.com \
    --cc=ziy@nvidia.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox