From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
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Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap early for folio_walk_start()
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 19:25:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9d1b682-cf3c-4808-ba50-56c75a406dae@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZrZJqd8FBLU_GqFH@x1n>
On 09.08.24 18:54, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 06:20:06PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 09.08.24 18:08, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> Pfnmaps can always be identified with special bits in the ptes/pmds/puds.
>>> However that's unnecessary if the vma is stable, and when it's mapped under
>>> VM_PFNMAP | VM_IO.
>>>
>>> Instead of adding similar checks in all the levels for huge pfnmaps, let
>>> folio_walk_start() fail even earlier for these mappings. It's also
>>> something gup-slow already does, so make them match.
>>>
>>> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>> mm/pagewalk.c | 5 +++++
>>> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/pagewalk.c b/mm/pagewalk.c
>>> index cd79fb3b89e5..fd3965efe773 100644
>>> --- a/mm/pagewalk.c
>>> +++ b/mm/pagewalk.c
>>> @@ -727,6 +727,11 @@ struct folio *folio_walk_start(struct folio_walk *fw,
>>> p4d_t *p4dp;
>>> mmap_assert_locked(vma->vm_mm);
>>> +
>>> + /* It has no folio backing the mappings at all.. */
>>> + if (vma->vm_flags & (VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP))
>>> + return NULL;
>>> +
>>
>> That is in general not what we want, and we still have some places that
>> wrongly hard-code that behavior.
>>
>> In a MAP_PRIVATE mapping you might have anon pages that we can happily walk.
>>
>> vm_normal_page() / vm_normal_page_pmd() [and as commented as a TODO,
>> vm_normal_page_pud()] should be able to identify PFN maps and reject them,
>> no?
>
> Yep, I think we can also rely on special bit.
>
> When I was working on this whole series I must confess I am already
> confused on the real users of MAP_PRIVATE pfnmaps. E.g. we probably don't
> need either PFNMAP for either mprotect/fork/... at least for our use case,
> then VM_PRIVATE is even one step further.
Yes, it's rather a corner case indeed.
>
> Here I chose to follow gup-slow, and I suppose you meant that's also wrong?
I assume just nobody really noticed, just like nobody noticed that
walk_page_test() skips VM_PFNMAP (but not VM_IO :) ).
Your process memory stats will likely miss anon folios on COW PFNMAP
mappings ... in the rare cases where they exist (e.g., mmap() of /dev/mem).
> If so, would it make sense we keep them aligned as of now, and change them
> altogether? Or do you think we should just rely on the special bits?
GUP already refuses to work on a lot of other stuff, so likely not a
good use of time unless somebody complains.
But yes, long-term we should make all code either respect that it could
happen (and bury less awkward checks in page table walkers) or rip
support for MAP_PRIVATE PFNMAP out completely.
>
> And, just curious: is there any use case you're aware of that can benefit
> from caring PRIVATE pfnmaps yet so far, especially in this path?
In general MAP_PRIVATE pfnmaps is not really useful on things like MMIO.
There was a discussion (in VM_PAT) some time ago whether we could remove
MAP_PRIVATE PFNMAPs completely [1]. At least some users still use COW
mappings on /dev/mem, although not many (and they might not actually
write to these areas).
I'm happy if someone wants to try ripping that out, I'm not brave enough :)
[1]
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/1f2a8ed4-aaff-4be7-b3b6-63d2841a2908@redhat.com
>
> As far as I read, none of folio_walk_start() users so far should even
> stumble on top of a pfnmap, share or private. But that's a fairly quick
> glimps only.
do_pages_stat()->do_pages_stat_array() should be able to trigger it, if
you pass "nodes=NULL" to move_pages().
Maybe s390x could be tricked into it, but likely as you say, most code
shouldn't trigger it. The function itself should be handling it
correctly as of today, though.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-09 17:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-09 16:08 [PATCH 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 17:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 18:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-14 12:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-14 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 15:23 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-14 15:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-14 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 16:59 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-14 12:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 15:34 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-14 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 17:15 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 17:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12 18:29 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-12 18:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-12 19:05 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-14 13:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 15:43 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:08 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-14 13:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 18:24 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-14 22:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15 15:41 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-15 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15 17:21 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-15 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15 18:52 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 23:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-17 11:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-21 19:10 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 17:23 ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-08-12 18:58 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-12 22:47 ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-08-12 23:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 13:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 14:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-14 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2024-08-09 16:09 ` [PATCH 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-14 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 16:08 ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-14 16:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20240809160909.1023470-7-peterx@redhat.com>
2024-08-09 16:20 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap early for folio_walk_start() David Hildenbrand
2024-08-09 16:54 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-09 17:25 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-08-09 21:37 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-14 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-16 9:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-16 14:21 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 17:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-21 18:42 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 17:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-19 12:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-19 14:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-09 18:12 ` [PATCH 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps David Hildenbrand
2024-08-14 12:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 14:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 14:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-08-14 14:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 20:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 22:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-14 22:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-14 23:36 ` Oliver Upton
2024-08-14 23:27 ` Oliver Upton
2024-08-14 23:38 ` Oliver Upton
2024-08-15 0:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-08-15 19:20 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 3:05 ` Kefeng Wang
2024-08-16 14:33 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-19 13:14 ` Kefeng Wang
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