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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Zhongkun He <hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>,
	minchan@kernel.org, senozhatsky@chromium.org, mhocko@suse.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/3] zram: charge the compressed RAM to the page's memcgroup
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 11:27:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9b22eaa-00a1-6c5c-99a0-126b085f7cb0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230615034830.1361853-1-hezhongkun.hzk@bytedance.com>

On 15.06.23 05:48, Zhongkun He wrote:
> The compressed RAM is currently charged to kernel, not to
> any memory cgroup, which is not satisfy our usage scenario.
> if the memory of a task is limited by memcgroup, it will
> swap out the memory to zram swap device when the memory
> is insufficient. In that case, the memory limit will have
> no effect.
> 
> So, it should makes sense to charge the compressed RAM to
> the page's memory cgroup.

Interesting. When looking at possible ways to achieve that in a clean 
way, my understanding was that the page might not always be accounted to 
a memcg (e.g., simply some buffer?). Besides the swap->zram case I was 
thinking about other fs->zram case, or just a straight read/write to the 
zram device.

The easiest way to see where that goes wrong I think is 
zram_bvec_write_partial(), where we simply allocate a temporary page.

Either I am missing something important, or this only works in some 
special cases.

I came to the conclusion that the only reasonable way is to assign a 
complete zram device to a single cgroup and have all memory accounted to 
that cgroup. Does also not solve all use cases (especially the 
swap->zram case that might be better offjust using zswap?) but at least 
the memory gets accounted in a more predictable way.

Happy to learn more.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-15  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-15  3:48 Zhongkun He
2023-06-15  4:59 ` Yu Zhao
2023-06-15  8:57   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15 10:00     ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:14       ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-16  1:39     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  4:40       ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-16  7:37         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  7:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  8:04             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-16  8:37               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  8:39                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-06-15  9:32   ` Fabian Deutsch
2023-06-15  9:41   ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15  9:27 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-06-15 11:15   ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 11:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 12:19       ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:56         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-15 13:40           ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:46             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-16  3:44               ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15  9:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 11:58   ` [External] " 贺中坤
2023-06-15 12:16     ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 13:09       ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 13:27         ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-15 14:13           ` 贺中坤
2023-06-15 14:20             ` Michal Hocko
2023-06-16  3:31               ` 贺中坤
2023-06-16  6:40                 ` Michal Hocko

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