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From: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@huawei.com>,
	Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-integrity <linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] __wr_after_init: write rare for static allocation
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 00:32:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9382720-3c39-5f10-afcd-dc17727fe4dc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181206094451.GC13538@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 06/12/2018 11:44, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 03:13:56PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> 
>>> +       if (op == WR_MEMCPY)
>>> +               memcpy((void *)wr_poking_addr, (void *)src, len);
>>> +       else if (op == WR_MEMSET)
>>> +               memset((u8 *)wr_poking_addr, (u8)src, len);
>>> +       else if (op == WR_RCU_ASSIGN_PTR)
>>> +               /* generic version of rcu_assign_pointer */
>>> +               smp_store_release((void **)wr_poking_addr,
>>> +                                 RCU_INITIALIZER((void **)src));
>>> +       kasan_enable_current();
>>
>> Hmm.  I suspect this will explode quite badly on sane architectures
>> like s390.  (In my book, despite how weird s390 is, it has a vastly
>> nicer model of "user" memory than any other architecture I know
>> of...).  I think you should use copy_to_user(), etc, instead.  I'm not
>> entirely sure what the best smp_store_release() replacement is.
>> Making this change may also mean you can get rid of the
>> kasan_disable_current().
> 
> If you make the MEMCPY one guarantee single-copy atomicity for native
> words then you're basically done.
> 
> smp_store_release() can be implemented with:
> 
> 	smp_mb();
> 	WRITE_ONCE();
> 
> So if we make MEMCPY provide the WRITE_ONCE(), all we need is that
> barrier, which we can easily place at the call site and not overly
> complicate our interface with this.

Ok, so the 3rd case (WR_RCU_ASSIGN_PTR) could be handled outside of this 
function.
But, since now memcpy() will be replaced by copy_to_user(), can I assume 
that also copy_to_user() will be atomic, if the destination is properly 
aligned? On x86_64 it seems yes, however it's not clear to me if this is 
the outcome of an optimization or if I can expect it to be always true.


--
igor

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-09 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-04 12:17 [RFC v1 PATCH 0/6] hardening: statically allocated protected memory Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 1/6] __wr_after_init: linker section and label Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 2/6] __wr_after_init: write rare for static allocation Igor Stoppa
2018-12-05 23:13   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06  9:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-09 22:32       ` Igor Stoppa [this message]
2018-12-10  9:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-12-09 22:09     ` Igor Stoppa
2018-12-12  9:49     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2018-12-19 22:50       ` Igor Stoppa
2018-12-06  4:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-12-09 22:22     ` Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 3/6] rodata_test: refactor tests Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 4/6] rodata_test: add verification for __wr_after_init Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 5/6] __wr_after_init: test write rare functionality Igor Stoppa
2018-12-04 12:18 ` [PATCH 6/6] __wr_after_init: lkdtm test Igor Stoppa

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