From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Reduce cost of ptep_get_lockless on arm64
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:31:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8b3bcf2-495f-42bd-b114-6e3a010644d8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ae22147-e1a1-4bcb-8a4c-f900f3f8c39e@redhat.com>
On 26/03/2024 16:17, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 15.02.24 13:17, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> This is an RFC for a series that aims to reduce the cost and complexity of
>> ptep_get_lockless() for arm64 when supporting transparent contpte mappings [1].
>> The approach came from discussion with Mark and David [2].
>>
>> It introduces a new helper, ptep_get_lockless_norecency(), which allows the
>> access and dirty bits in the returned pte to be incorrect. This relaxation
>> permits arm64's implementation to just read the single target pte, and avoids
>> having to iterate over the full contpte block to gather the access and dirty
>> bits, for the contpte case.
>>
>> It turns out that none of the call sites using ptep_get_lockless() require
>> accurate access and dirty bit information, so we can also convert those sites.
>> Although a couple of places need care (see patches 2 and 3).
>>
>> Arguably patch 3 is a bit fragile, given the wide accessibility of
>> vmf->orig_pte. So it might make sense to drop this patch and stick to using
>> ptep_get_lockless() in the page fault path. I'm keen to hear opinions.
>
> Yes. Especially as we have these pte_same() checks that might just fail now
> because of wrong accessed/dirty bits?
Which pte_same() checks are you referring to? I've changed them all to
pte_same_norecency() which ignores the access/dirty bits when doing the comparison.
>
> Likely, we just want to read "the real deal" on both sides of the pte_same()
> handling.
Sorry I'm not sure I understand? You mean read the full pte including
access/dirty? That's the same as dropping the patch, right? Of course if we do
that, we still have to keep pte_get_lockless() around for this case. In an ideal
world we would convert everything over to ptep_get_lockless_norecency() and
delete ptep_get_lockless() to remove the ugliness from arm64.
>
>>
>> I've chosen the name "recency" because it's shortish and somewhat descriptive,
>> and is alredy used in a couple of places to mean similar things (see mglru and
>> damon). I'm open to other names if anyone has better ideas.
>
> Not a native speaker; works for me.
>
>>
>> If concensus is that this approach is generally acceptable, I intend to create a
>> series in future to do a similar thing with ptep_get() -> ptep_get_norecency().
>
> Yes, sounds good to me.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-26 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-15 12:17 Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] mm: Introduce ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <7aefa967-43aa-490b-ae0d-7d1455402e89@redhat.com>
2024-03-26 16:39 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 9:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] mm/gup: Use ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 16:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] mm/memory: Use ptep_get_lockless_norecency() for orig_pte Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:27 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 9:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 17:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 12:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] arm64/mm: Override ptep_get_lockless_norecency() Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 16:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:17 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] Reduce cost of ptep_get_lockless on arm64 David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 16:31 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
[not found] ` <de143212-49ce-4c30-8bfa-4c0ff613f107@redhat.com>
2024-03-26 16:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:32 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-26 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 17:51 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-27 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 10:01 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-03 12:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-08 8:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-09 16:35 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-10 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-11 9:45 ` Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <70a36403-aefd-4311-b612-84e602465689@redhat.com>
2024-04-15 9:28 ` Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <3e50030d-2289-4470-a727-a293baa21618@redhat.com>
2024-04-15 13:30 ` Ryan Roberts
[not found] ` <969dc6c3-2764-4a35-9fa6-7596832fb2a3@redhat.com>
2024-04-15 14:34 ` Ryan Roberts
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2024-04-15 15:17 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-15 15:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-15 15:53 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-15 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-23 10:15 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-04-23 10:18 ` David Hildenbrand
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