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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [BUG] Memory ordering between kmalloc() and kfree()? it's confusing!
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 11:42:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8308828-ed28-4650-8c8f-22a7e5cfd1a0@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaByMLSAIJM8HdbO@hyeyoo>

On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 01:17:52AM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 10:45:55AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 03:35:08PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
> > > Because the slab allocator itself doesn't guarantee that such
> > > barriers are invoked within the allocator, it relies on users to
> > > do this when needed.
> > 
> > It doesn't?  Then how does the slab allocator guarantee that two 
> > different CPUs won't try to perform allocations or deallocations from 
> > the same slab at the same time, messing everything up?
> 
> Ah, alloc/free slowpaths do use cmpxchg128 or spinlock and
> don't mess things up.
> 
> But fastpath allocs/frees are served from percpu array that is protected
> by a local_lock. local_lock has a compiler barrier in it, but that's
> not enough.

If those things rely on a percpu array, how can one CPU possibly 
manipulate a resource (slab or something else) that was changed by a 
different CPU?  The whole point of percpu data structures is that each 
CPU gets its own copy.

Alan Stern


  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-26 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26  6:35 Harry Yoo
2026-02-26 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2026-02-26 16:17   ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-26 16:42     ` Alan Stern [this message]
2026-02-26 17:11       ` Harry Yoo
2026-02-26 18:06         ` Alan Stern
2026-02-26 17:59     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)

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