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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	Naveen N Rao <naveen@kernel.org>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v2 4/6] mm/page_alloc: sort out the alloc_contig_range() gfp flags mess
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 20:19:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d736f1c0-343e-4031-88ba-3b33b73dbeba@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04c1d28e-bbea-4499-9a6d-770f9ca53ba9@suse.cz>

On 03.12.24 15:24, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 12/3/24 15:12, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 03.12.24 14:55, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> On 12/3/24 10:47, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> It's all a bit complicated for alloc_contig_range(). For example, we don't
>>>> support many flags, so let's start bailing out on unsupported
>>>> ones -- ignoring the placement hints, as we are already given the range
>>>> to allocate.
>>>>
>>>> While we currently set cc.gfp_mask, in __alloc_contig_migrate_range() we
>>>> simply create yet another GFP mask whereby we ignore the reclaim flags
>>>> specify by the caller. That looks very inconsistent.
>>>>
>>>> Let's clean it up, constructing the gfp flags used for
>>>> compaction/migration exactly once. Update the documentation of the
>>>> gfp_mask parameter for alloc_contig_range() and alloc_contig_pages().
>>>>
>>>> Acked-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>>>
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Flags to control page compaction/migration/reclaim, to free up our
>>>> +	 * page range. Migratable pages are movable, __GFP_MOVABLE is implied
>>>> +	 * for them.
>>>> +	 *
>>>> +	 * Traditionally we always had __GFP_HARDWALL|__GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL set,
>>>> +	 * keep doing that to not degrade callers.
>>>> +	 */
>>>
>>> Wonder if we could revisit that eventually. Why limit migration targets by
>>> cpuset via __GFP_HARDWALL if we were not called with __GFP_HARDWALL? And why
>>> weaken the attempts with __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL if we didn't specify it?
>>
>> See below.
>>
>>>
>>> Unless I'm missing something, cc->gfp is only checked for __GFP_FS and
>>> __GFP_NOWARN in few places, so it's mostly migration_target_control the
>>> callers could meaningfully influence.
>>
>> Note the fist change in the file, where we now use the mask instead of coming up
>> with another one out of the blue. :)
> 
> I know. What I wanted to say - cc->gfp is on its own only checked in few
> places, but now since we also translate it to migration_target_control's
> gfp_mask, it's mostly that part the caller might influence with the passed
> flags. But we still impose own additions to it, limiting that influence.
> 
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index ce7589a4ec01..54594cc4f650 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -6294,7 +6294,7 @@ static int __alloc_contig_migrate_range(struct compact_control *cc,
>>    	int ret = 0;
>>    	struct migration_target_control mtc = {
>>    		.nid = zone_to_nid(cc->zone),
>> -		.gfp_mask = GFP_USER | __GFP_MOVABLE | __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL,
>> +		.gfp_mask = cc->gfp_mask,
>>    		.reason = MR_CONTIG_RANGE,
>>    	};
>>
>> GFP_USER contains __GFP_HARDWALL. I am not sure if that matters here, but
> 
> Yeah wonder if GFP_USER was used specifically for that part, or just randomly :)
> 
>> likely the thing we are assuming here is that we are migrating a page, and
>> usually, these are user allocation (except maybe balloon and some other non-lru
>> movable things).
> 
> Yeah and user allocations obey cpuset and mempolicies etc. But these are
> likely somebody elses allocations that were done according to their
> policies. With our migration we might be actually violating those, which
> probably can't be helped (is at least migration within the same node
> preferred? hmm).

I would hope that we handle memory policies somehow (via VMAs? not 
sure). cpuset? I have no idea.

But it doesn't seem to me that our caller's restrictions
> (if those exist, would be enforced by __GFP_HARDWALL) are that relevant for
> somebody else's pages?

It was always set using "GFP_USER | __GFP_MOVABLE | 
__GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL", and I removed the same flag combination in #2 from 
memory offline code, and we do have the exact same thing in 
do_migrate_range() in mm/memory_hotplug.c.

We should investigate if__GFP_HARDWALL is the right thing to use here, 
and if we can get rid of that by switching to GFP_KERNEL in all these 
places.

I can look into it + send a follow-up patch.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-03 19:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-03  9:47 [PATCH RESEND v2 0/6] mm/page_alloc: gfp flags cleanups for alloc_contig_*() David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 1/6] mm/page_isolation: don't pass gfp flags to isolate_single_pageblock() David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 13:31   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-03 15:30   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-03 21:44   ` Vishal Moola
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 2/6] mm/page_isolation: don't pass gfp flags to start_isolate_page_range() David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 13:32   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-03 15:32   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-03 21:44   ` Vishal Moola
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 3/6] mm/page_alloc: make __alloc_contig_migrate_range() static David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 13:33   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-03 15:33   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-03 21:45   ` Vishal Moola
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 4/6] mm/page_alloc: sort out the alloc_contig_range() gfp flags mess David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 13:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-03 14:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 14:24       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-03 15:49         ` Zi Yan
2024-12-03 19:07           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 19:19         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-12-04  8:54           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-04  8:59           ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-04  9:03             ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-04  9:15               ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-04  9:28                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-04 10:04                   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-04 11:05                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-04  9:00   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 5/6] mm/page_alloc: forward the gfp flags from alloc_contig_range() to post_alloc_hook() David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 14:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-12-04  9:03   ` Oscar Salvador
2024-12-03  9:47 ` [PATCH RESEND v2 6/6] powernv/memtrace: use __GFP_ZERO with alloc_contig_pages() David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 14:39   ` Vlastimil Babka

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