From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
yangge1116 <yangge1116@126.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, liuzixing@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/gup: don't check page lru flag before draining it
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 09:57:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6deb928-3466-45ea-939b-cb5aca9bc7b4@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <697a9bc2-a655-4035-aa5e-7d3acb23e79d@redhat.com>
On 2024/6/5 20:20, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 05.06.24 13:41, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 05.06.24 13:37, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2024/6/5 17:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 05.06.24 11:41, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>> On 05.06.24 03:18, yangge1116 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 在 2024/6/4 下午9:47, David Hildenbrand 写道:
>>>>>>> On 04.06.24 12:48, yangge1116@126.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> From: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a page is added in pagevec, its ref count increases one, remove
>>>>>>>> the page from pagevec decreases one. Page migration requires the
>>>>>>>> page is not referenced by others except page mapping. Before
>>>>>>>> migrating a page, we should try to drain the page from pagevec in
>>>>>>>> case the page is in it, however, folio_test_lru() is not sufficient
>>>>>>>> to tell whether the page is in pagevec or not, if the page is in
>>>>>>>> pagevec, the migration will fail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remove the condition and drain lru once to ensure the page is not
>>>>>>>> referenced by pagevec.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you are saying is that we might have a page on which
>>>>>>> folio_test_lru() succeeds, that was added to one of the
>>>>>>> cpu_fbatches,
>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you describe under which circumstances that happens?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we call folio_activate() to move a page from inactive LRU list to
>>>>>> active LRU list, the page is not only in LRU list, but also in one of
>>>>>> the cpu_fbatches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void folio_activate(struct folio *folio)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> if (folio_test_lru(folio) && !folio_test_active(folio) &&
>>>>>> !folio_test_unevictable(folio)) {
>>>>>> struct folio_batch *fbatch;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> folio_get(folio);
>>>>>> //After this, folio is in LRU list, and its ref count
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> increased one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> local_lock(&cpu_fbatches.lock);
>>>>>> fbatch = this_cpu_ptr(&cpu_fbatches.activate);
>>>>>> folio_batch_add_and_move(fbatch, folio,
>>>>>> folio_activate_fn);
>>>>>> local_unlock(&cpu_fbatches.lock);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting, the !SMP variant does the folio_test_clear_lru().
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be really helpful if we could reliably identify whether LRU
>>>>> batching code has a raised reference on a folio.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have the same scenario in
>>>>> * folio_deactivate()
>>>>> * folio_mark_lazyfree()
>>>>>
>>>>> In folio_batch_move_lru() we do the folio_test_clear_lru(folio).
>>>>>
>>>>> No expert on that code, I'm wondering if we could move the
>>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() out, such that we can more reliably identify
>>>>> whether a folio is on the LRU batch or not.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure there would be something extremely broken with the following
>>>> (I don't know what I'm doing ;) ), but I wonder if there would be a way
>>>> to make something like that work (and perform well enough?).
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/mm/swap.c b/mm/swap.c
>>>> index 67786cb771305..642e471c3ec5a 100644
>>>> --- a/mm/swap.c
>>>> +++ b/mm/swap.c
>>>> @@ -212,10 +212,6 @@ static void folio_batch_move_lru(struct
>>>> folio_batch
>>>> *fbatch, move_fn_t move_fn)
>>>> for (i = 0; i < folio_batch_count(fbatch); i++) {
>>>> struct folio *folio = fbatch->folios[i];
>>>>
>>>> - /* block memcg migration while the folio moves between
>>>> lru */
>>>> - if (move_fn != lru_add_fn &&
>>>> !folio_test_clear_lru(folio))
>>>> - continue;
>>>> -
>>>> folio_lruvec_relock_irqsave(folio, &lruvec, &flags);
>>>> move_fn(lruvec, folio);
>>>>
>>>> @@ -255,8 +251,9 @@ static void lru_move_tail_fn(struct lruvec *lruvec,
>>>> struct folio *folio)
>>>> */
>>>> void folio_rotate_reclaimable(struct folio *folio)
>>>> {
>>>> - if (!folio_test_locked(folio) && !folio_test_dirty(folio) &&
>>>> - !folio_test_unevictable(folio) && folio_test_lru(folio)) {
>>>> + if (folio_test_lru(folio) && !folio_test_locked(folio) &&
>>>> + !folio_test_dirty(folio) &&
>>>> !folio_test_unevictable(folio) &&
>>>> + folio_test_clear_lru(folio)) {
>>>> struct folio_batch *fbatch;
>>>> unsigned long flags;
>>>>
>>>> @@ -354,7 +351,7 @@ static void folio_activate_drain(int cpu)
>>>> void folio_activate(struct folio *folio)
>>>> {
>>>> if (folio_test_lru(folio) && !folio_test_active(folio) &&
>>>> - !folio_test_unevictable(folio)) {
>>>> + !folio_test_unevictable(folio) &&
>>>> folio_test_clear_lru(folio)) {
>>>
>>> IMO, this seems violate the semantics of the LRU flag, since it's clear
>>> that this folio is still in the LRU list.
>>
>> Good point.
>>
>> But regarding "violation": we already do clear the flag temporarily in
>> there, so it's rather that we make the visible time where it is cleared
>> "longer". (yes, it can be much longer :) )
>
> Some random thoughts about some folio_test_lru() users:
>
> mm/khugepaged.c: skips pages if !folio_test_lru(), but would fail skip
> it either way if there is the unexpected reference from the LRU batch!
>
> mm/compaction.c: skips pages if !folio_test_lru(), but would fail skip
> it either way if there is the unexpected reference from the LRU batch!
>
> mm/memory.c: would love to identify this case and to a lru_add_drain()
> to free up that reference.
>
> mm/huge_memory.c: splitting with the additional reference will fail
> already. Maybe we'd want to drain the LRU batch.
Agree.
>
> mm/madvise.c: skips pages if !folio_test_lru(). I wonder what happens if
> we have the same page twice in an LRU batch with different target goals ...
IIUC, LRU batch can ignore this folio since it's LRU flag is cleared by
folio_isolate_lru(), then will call folios_put() to frop the reference.
> Some other users (there are not that many that don't use it for sanity
> checks though) might likely be a bit different.
mm/page_isolation.c: fail to set pageblock migratetype to isolate if
!folio_test_lru(), then alloc_contig_range_noprof() can be failed. But
the original code could set pageblock migratetype to isolate, then
calling drain_all_pages() in alloc_contig_range_noprof() to drop
reference of the LRU batch.
mm/vmscan.c: will call lru_add_drain() before calling
isolate_lru_folios(), so seems no impact.
BTW, we also need to look at the usage of folio_isolate_lru().
It doesn’t seem to have major obstacles, but there are many details to
analyze :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-06 1:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-04 10:48 yangge1116
2024-06-04 13:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-05 1:18 ` yangge1116
2024-06-05 9:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-05 9:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-05 11:37 ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-05 11:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-05 12:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-06 1:57 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2024-06-06 7:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-08 4:38 ` yangge1116
2024-06-08 15:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-08 16:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-11 11:20 ` yangge1116
2024-06-12 7:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-15 11:44 ` yangge1116
2024-06-17 9:50 ` yangge1116
2024-06-17 9:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-17 11:22 ` yangge1116
2024-06-06 1:35 ` yangge1116
2024-06-06 7:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-06 8:50 ` yangge1116
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2024-06-04 8:09 yangge1116
2024-06-04 8:56 ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-04 9:18 ` yangge1116
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