linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shuah@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: chrisl@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com,
	kasong@tencent.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ying.huang@intel.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] selftests/mm: Introduce a test program to assess swap entry allocation for thp_swapout
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 10:52:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5f14248-3cbc-4c1e-8b0f-f241b07f5fb5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b99c2f80-3b53-4b04-b610-a66179b928a9@arm.com>

On 21.06.24 09:25, Ryan Roberts wrote:
> On 20/06/2024 12:34, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 20.06.24 11:04, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2024 01:26, Barry Song wrote:
>>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>
>>>>
>>>> Both Ryan and Chris have been utilizing the small test program to aid
>>>> in debugging and identifying issues with swap entry allocation. While
>>>> a real or intricate workload might be more suitable for assessing the
>>>> correctness and effectiveness of the swap allocation policy, a small
>>>> test program presents a simpler means of understanding the problem and
>>>> initially verifying the improvements being made.
>>>>
>>>> Let's endeavor to integrate it into the self-test suite. Although it
>>>> presently only accommodates 64KB and 4KB, I'm optimistic that we can
>>>> expand its capabilities to support multiple sizes and simulate more
>>>> complex systems in the future as required.
>>>
>>> I'll try to summarize the thread with Huang Ying by suggesting this test program
>>> is "neccessary but not sufficient" to exhaustively test the mTHP swap-out path.
>>> I've certainly found it useful and think it would be a valuable addition to the
>>> tree.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm not convinced it is a selftest; IMO a selftest should provide a
>>> clear pass/fail result against some criteria and must be able to be run
>>> automatically by (e.g.) a CI system.
>>
>> Likely we should then consider moving other such performance-related thingies
>> out of the selftests?
> 
> Yes, that would get my vote. But of the 4 tests you mentioned that use
> clock_gettime(), it looks like transhuge-stress is the only one that doesn't
> have a pass/fail result, so is probably the only candidate for moving.
> 
> The others either use the times as a timeout and determines failure if the
> action didn't occur within the timeout (e.g. ksm_tests.c) or use it to add some
> supplemental performance information to an otherwise functionality-oriented test.

Likely for ksm it would make sense to move the really functional parts 
to ksm_function_tests.c.

Fur gup_test it might be similar.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-20  0:26 Barry Song
2024-06-20  1:53 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  2:04   ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  5:20     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  6:09       ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  6:34         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  7:25           ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  7:59             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  8:11               ` Barry Song
2024-06-20  8:26                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:07                   ` Barry Song
     [not found]   ` <3e185f8d-da63-4a61-9cd1-9804bd972515@redhat.com>
2024-06-20  7:24     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-20  9:04 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-20 11:34   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-21  2:33     ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-21  7:25     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-21  7:47       ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  7:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-21  8:50         ` Chris Li
2024-06-21 11:20           ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  9:22         ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-21  9:43           ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  3:42             ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  4:05               ` Barry Song
2024-06-24  6:59                 ` Huang, Ying
2024-06-24  7:55                   ` Barry Song
2024-06-21  8:52       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-06-20 23:34 ` Chris Li
2024-06-21  7:34   ` Ryan Roberts

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=d5f14248-3cbc-4c1e-8b0f-f241b07f5fb5@redhat.com \
    --to=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=21cnbao@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=chrisl@kernel.org \
    --cc=hughd@google.com \
    --cc=kaleshsingh@google.com \
    --cc=kasong@tencent.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=ryan.roberts@arm.com \
    --cc=shuah@kernel.org \
    --cc=v-songbaohua@oppo.com \
    --cc=ying.huang@intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox