From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: "Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
davem@davemloft.net, pabeni@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Willem de Bruijn" <willemb@google.com>,
"Kaiyuan Zhang" <kaiyuanz@google.com>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:58:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5672499-ce5b-45c0-b47a-e5bb188f6c7f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15c404e4-8efa-cc1c-174f-0752005b6755@huawei.com>
On 11/16/23 4:12 AM, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 2023/11/16 1:57, David Ahern wrote:
>> On 11/15/23 2:21 AM, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>>> On 2023/11/14 21:16, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 04:21:26AM -0800, Mina Almasry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually because you put the 'strtuct page for devmem' in
>>>>> skb->bv_frag, the net stack will grab the 'struct page' for devmem
>>>>> using skb_frag_page() then call things like page_address(), kmap,
>>>>> get_page, put_page, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Yikes, please no. If net has its own struct page look alike it has to
>>>> stay entirely inside net. A non-mm owned struct page should not be
>>>> passed into mm calls. It is just way too hacky to be seriously
>>>> considered :(
>>>
>>> Yes, that is something this patchset is trying to do, defining its own
>>> struct page look alike for page pool to support devmem.
>>>
>>
>> Networking needs to be able to move away from struct page references.
>> The devmem and host memory for Rx use cases do not need to be page based.
>
> Yes, I am agreed the ultimate goal is to move away from struct page
> references. But I am not sure if we can do it right away as there
> still are different types of existing 'struct page' in the netstack,
> see:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/8b7d25eb-1f10-3e37-8753-92b42da3fb34@huawei.com/
yes, that is the point of a blended approach -- pages and buffers (or
iov) -- leveraging the LSB of the address. That proposal is the right
direction to be moving for co-existence. Adding fake struct page
instances is the wrong direction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-16 15:58 UTC|newest]
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2023-11-14 8:23 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 12:21 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 12:49 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 12:58 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 13:19 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 15:41 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-15 9:29 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 18:07 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-15 19:05 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-16 11:12 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 11:30 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-14 13:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-15 6:46 ` Christian König
2023-11-15 9:21 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-16 11:10 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 15:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-15 17:44 ` Mina Almasry
2023-11-16 11:11 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-15 17:57 ` David Ahern
2023-11-16 11:12 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-16 15:58 ` David Ahern [this message]
2023-11-17 11:27 ` Yunsheng Lin
2023-11-14 22:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-15 9:33 ` Yunsheng Lin
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