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From: Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Eddy Z <eddyz87@gmail.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 04/16] bpf: Introduce bpf_arena.
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:11:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4024acf-97c9-4a16-ac70-739d0bf81a45@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJJ7M+OHnygbuN4qapCS8_r-mimM6CLw5oee8ixvmqg4Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/7/24 15:55, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> instead of uaddr, can you change this to take an address relative to the
>> arena ("arena virtual address"?)?  the caller of this is in BPF, and
>> they don't easily know the user virtual address.  maybe even just pgoff
>> directly.
> I thought about it, but it doesn't quite make sense.
> bpf prog only sees user addresses.
> All load/store returns them. If it bpf_printk-s an address it will be
> user address.
> bpf_arena_alloc_pages() also returns a user address.

Yeah, makes sense to keep them all in the same address space.

> 
> Kernel addresses are not seen by bpf prog at all.
> kern_vm_base is completely hidden.
> Only at JIT time, it's added to pointers.
> So passing uaddr to arena_alloc_pages() matches mmap style.
> 
> uaddr = bpf_arena_alloc_pages(... uaddr ...)
> uaddr = mmap(uaddr, ...MAP_FIXED)
> 
> Passing pgoff would be weird.
> Also note that there is no extra flag for bpf_arena_alloc_pages().
> uaddr == full 64-bit of zeros is not a valid addr to use.

The problem I had with uaddr was that when I'm writing a BPF program, I 
don't know which address to use for a given page, e.g. the beginning of 
the arena.  I needed some way to tell me the user address "base" of the 
arena.  Though now that I can specify the user_vm_start through the 
map_extra, I think I'm ok.

Specifically, say I want to break up my arena into two, 2GB chunks, one 
for each numa node, and I want to bump-allocate from each chunk.  When I 
want to allocate the first page from either segment, I'll need to know 
what user address is offset 0 or offset 2GB.

Since I know the user_start_vm at compile time, I can just hardcode that 
to convert from "arena address" (e.g. pgoff) to the user address space.

thanks,

barret




  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-06 22:04 [PATCH bpf-next 00/16] bpf: Introduce BPF arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/16] bpf: Allow kfuncs return 'void *' Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 19:40   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-09  0:09     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 19:09       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-10  2:32         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 16:06   ` David Vernet
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/16] bpf: Recognize '__map' suffix in kfunc arguments Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 16:57   ` David Vernet
2024-02-09 17:46     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 18:11       ` David Vernet
2024-02-09 18:59         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09 19:18           ` David Vernet
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/16] mm: Expose vmap_pages_range() to the rest of the kernel Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 21:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-02-07 22:56     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08  5:44     ` Johannes Weiner
2024-02-08 23:55       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-09  6:36       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-02-14  8:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/16] bpf: Introduce bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 18:40   ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-07 20:55     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 21:11       ` Barret Rhoden [this message]
2024-02-08  6:26         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 21:58           ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-08 23:36             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 23:50               ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/16] bpf: Disasm support for cast_kern/user instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/16] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for PROBE_MEM32 pseudo instructions Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/16] bpf: Add x86-64 JIT support for bpf_cast_user instruction Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/16] bpf: Recognize cast_kern/user instructions in the verifier Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/16] bpf: Recognize btf_decl_tag("arg:arena") as PTR_TO_ARENA Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/16] libbpf: Add __arg_arena to bpf_helpers.h Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/16] libbpf: Add support for bpf_arena Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08  1:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08  1:38     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:29       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08 18:45         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:54           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08 18:59             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/16] libbpf: Allow specifying 64-bit integers in map BTF Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08  1:16   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-08  1:58     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 18:16       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 13/16] bpf: Tell bpf programs kernel's PAGE_SIZE Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 14/16] bpf: Add helper macro bpf_arena_cast() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 15/16] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_list test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 17:04   ` Eduard Zingerman
2024-02-08  2:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-08 11:10       ` Jose E. Marchesi
2024-02-06 22:04 ` [PATCH bpf-next 16/16] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_arena_htab test Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 12:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 00/16] bpf: Introduce BPF arena Donald Hunter
2024-02-07 13:33   ` Barret Rhoden
2024-02-07 20:16     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-02-07 20:12   ` Alexei Starovoitov

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