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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@purestorage.com>,
	"Uday Shankar" <ushankar@purestorage.com>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [bug report?] unintuitive behavior when mapping over hugepage-backed PROT_NONE regions
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 10:29:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d401f32c-d29e-4fac-a167-36c5f597b542@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6UFZfOhhyD2h026@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 07:54:29PM +0100, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:11:30AM -0800, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:01:05AM +0100, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> > >
> > > That is because the above happens after __mmap_prepare(), which is
> > > responsible of unmapping any overlapping areas, is executed.
> > > I guess this is done this way because rolling back at this point would be
> > > quite tricky.
>
> Let me add Lorenzo
>
> > The big question (to me at least) is whether the current behavior is
> > correct or not.  I cannot find any documentation to that end, so maybe
> > this is a new question we have to answer for the first time.  So:
> >
> >   In case of failure, should munmap() change the process address space?
> >
> > As a user I would like the answer to be "no".  Partially because I was
> > personally surprised to see a change and surprises often result in bugs.
> > Partially because the specific change isn't even well-defined.  The size
> > of the unmapped region depends on the kernel configuration, you might
> > unmap a 2M-aligned chunk or a 1G-aligned chunk.
> >
> > Are there contrary opinions out there?  Would it ever be useful to have
> > a failed mmap or munmap make changes to the process address space?
>
> AFAIK we try to rollback as much as possible (vms_abort_munmap_vmas()),
> but sometimes it is not possible.
> For the problem here at hand, we could poke hugetlb to check whether it
> has enough hugetlb pages, but that would be 1) racy and 2) we do not
> want to special case hugetlb even more.
>
> Hopefully Lorenzo can shed some light here.

Thanks, let me look at the OP...

>
>
> --
> Oscar Salvador
> SUSE Labs
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-06  6:18 Uday Shankar
2025-02-06  9:01 ` Oscar Salvador
2025-02-06 18:11   ` Jörn Engel
2025-02-06 18:54     ` Oscar Salvador
2025-02-07 10:29       ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-02-07 10:49     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-07 12:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-06 19:44   ` Uday Shankar
2025-02-07 13:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-07 19:35   ` Jörn Engel
2025-02-08 16:02     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-08 17:37       ` Jörn Engel
2025-02-08 17:40         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-08 17:53           ` Jörn Engel
2025-02-08 18:00             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-08 21:16               ` Jörn Engel

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