From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
To: Raghavendra K T <rkodsara@amd.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
david@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com, mjguzik@gmail.com,
luto@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org, acme@kernel.org,
namhyung@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, willy@infradead.org,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 13/16] mm: memory: support clearing page ranges
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 14:43:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3c0edba-10e0-4335-8b62-0a2f35b686e5@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02da5912-b77e-42fa-be1c-d10c915730d2@amd.com>
On 9/23/2025 2:06 PM, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>
>
> On 9/18/2025 3:14 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2025 08:24:15 -0700 Ankur Arora
>> <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Change folio_zero_user() to clear contiguous page ranges instead of
>>> clearing using the current page-at-a-time approach. Exposing the largest
>>> feasible length can be useful in enabling processors to optimize based
>>> on extent.
>>
>> This patch is something which MM developers might care to take a closer
>> look at.
>>
>>> However, clearing in large chunks can have two problems:
>>>
>>> - cache locality when clearing small folios (< MAX_ORDER_NR_PAGES)
>>> (larger folios don't have any expectation of cache locality).
>>>
>>> - preemption latency when clearing large folios.
>>>
>>> Handle the first by splitting the clearing in three parts: the
>>> faulting page and its immediate locality, its left and right
>>> regions; with the local neighbourhood cleared last.
>>
>> Has this optimization been shown to be beneficial?
>>
>> If so, are you able to share some measurements?
>>
>> If not, maybe it should be removed?
>>
>
> I reverted the effect of this patch by hard coding
>
> #define PAGE_CONTIG_NR 1
>
> I see that benefit for voluntary kernel is lost without this change
>
> (for rep stosb)
>
> with PAGE_CONTIG_NR equivalent to 8MB
>
> Preempt mode: voluntary
>
> # Running 'mem/mmap' benchmark:
> # function 'demand' (Demand loaded mmap())
> # Copying 64GB bytes ...
>
> 34.533414 GB/sec
>
>
> with PAGE_CONTIG_NR equivalent to 4KB
>
> # Running 'mem/mmap' benchmark:
> # function 'demand' (Demand loaded mmap())
> # Copying 64GB bytes ...
>
> 20.766059 GB/sec
>
> For now (barring David's recommendations),
> feel free to add
>
> Reviewed-by: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@amd.com>
>
>
My reply was more towards the benefits of clearing multiple pages
for non-preempt and voluntary kernel, than the effect of clearing
neighborhood range at the end.
Sorry if that was confusing :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 9:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-17 15:24 [PATCH v7 00/16] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 01/16] perf bench mem: Remove repetition around time measurement Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 02/16] perf bench mem: Defer type munging of size to float Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 03/16] perf bench mem: Move mem op parameters into a structure Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 04/16] perf bench mem: Pull out init/fini logic Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 05/16] perf bench mem: Switch from zalloc() to mmap() Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 06/16] perf bench mem: Allow mapping of hugepages Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 07/16] perf bench mem: Allow chunking on a memory region Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 08/16] perf bench mem: Refactor mem_options Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 09/16] perf bench mem: Add mmap() workloads Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 10/16] mm: define clear_pages(), clear_user_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-09-23 8:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23 20:26 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-24 11:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25 5:25 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-30 9:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-10 10:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-10 13:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 11/16] mm/highmem: introduce clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-09-23 8:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23 20:34 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-24 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25 5:26 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-30 9:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 12/16] arm: mm: define clear_user_highpages() Ankur Arora
2025-09-23 8:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23 22:25 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-24 11:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25 6:08 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-30 9:51 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 6:43 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 13/16] mm: memory: support clearing page ranges Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2025-09-18 4:54 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-23 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23 8:36 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-09-23 9:13 ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2025-10-07 6:17 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-19 11:33 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 14/16] x86/mm: Simplify clear_page_* Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 15/16] x86/clear_page: Introduce clear_pages() Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 15:24 ` [PATCH v7 16/16] x86/clear_pages: Support clearing of page-extents Ankur Arora
2025-09-17 16:29 ` [PATCH v7 00/16] mm: folio_zero_user: clear contiguous pages Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2025-09-18 4:00 ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-23 6:29 ` Raghavendra K T
2025-10-07 6:15 ` Ankur Arora
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