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From: Vineet Gupta <vineet.gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] bitops.h: set_mask_bits() to return old value
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:58:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d36b8582-184a-37d2-699f-04837745b70a@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190111092408.GM30894@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 1/11/19 1:24 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> index 705f7c442691..2060d26a35f5 100644
> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> @@ -241,10 +241,10 @@ static __always_inline void __assign_bit(long nr, volatile unsigned long *addr,
>  	const typeof(*(ptr)) mask__ = (mask), bits__ = (bits);	\
>  	typeof(*(ptr)) old__, new__;				\
>  								\
> +	old__ = READ_ONCE(*(ptr));				\
>  	do {							\
> -		old__ = READ_ONCE(*(ptr));			\
>  		new__ = (old__ & ~mask__) | bits__;		\
> -	} while (cmpxchg(ptr, old__, new__) != old__);		\
> +	} while (!try_cmpxchg(ptr, &old__, new__));		\
>  								\
>  	new__;							\
>  })
> 
> 
> While there you probably want something like the above... 

As a separate change perhaps so that a revert (unlikely as it might be) could be
done with less pain.

> although,
> looking at it now, we seem to have 'forgotten' to add try_cmpxchg to the
> generic code :/

So it _has_ to be a separate change ;-)

But can we even provide a sane generic try_cmpxchg. The asm-generic cmpxchg relies
on local irq save etc so it is clearly only to prevent a new arch from failing to
compile. atomic*_cmpxchg() is different story since atomics have to be provided by
arch.

Anyhow what is more interesting is the try_cmpxchg API itself. So commit
a9ebf306f52c756 introduced/use of try_cmpxchg(), which indeed makes the looping
"nicer" to read and obvious code gen improvements.

So,
        for (;;) {
                new = val $op $imm;
                old = cmpxchg(ptr, val, new);
                if (old == val)
                        break;
                val = old;
        }

becomes

        do {
        } while (!try_cmpxchg(ptr, &val, val $op $imm));


But on pure LL/SC retry based arches, we still end up with generated code having 2
loops. We discussed something similar a while back: see [1]

First loop is inside inline asm to retry LL/SC and the outer one due to code
above. Explicit return of try_cmpxchg() means setting up a register with a boolean
status of cmpxchg (AFAIKR ARMv7 already does that but ARC e.g. uses a CPU flag
thus requires an additional insn or two). We could arguably remove the inline asm
loop and retry LL/SC from the outer loop, but it seems cleaner to keep the retry
where it belongs.

Also under the hood, try_cmpxchg() would end up re-reading it for the issue fixed
by commit 44fe84459faf1a.

Heck, it would all be simpler if we could express this w/o use of cmpxchg.

	try_some_op(ptr, &val, val $op $imm);

P.S. the horrible API name is for indicative purposes only

This would remove the outer loop completely, also avoid any re-reads due to the
semantics of cmpxchg etc.

[1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2029217.html

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: Vineet Gupta <vineet.gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] bitops.h: set_mask_bits() to return old value
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 12:58:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d36b8582-184a-37d2-699f-04837745b70a@synopsys.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190111205822.4-KS2-v8Zke1jCU4y2iftgr7vivlRj19Y9sCWnq9GOg@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190111092408.GM30894@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 1/11/19 1:24 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> diff --git a/include/linux/bitops.h b/include/linux/bitops.h
> index 705f7c442691..2060d26a35f5 100644
> --- a/include/linux/bitops.h
> +++ b/include/linux/bitops.h
> @@ -241,10 +241,10 @@ static __always_inline void __assign_bit(long nr, volatile unsigned long *addr,
>  	const typeof(*(ptr)) mask__ = (mask), bits__ = (bits);	\
>  	typeof(*(ptr)) old__, new__;				\
>  								\
> +	old__ = READ_ONCE(*(ptr));				\
>  	do {							\
> -		old__ = READ_ONCE(*(ptr));			\
>  		new__ = (old__ & ~mask__) | bits__;		\
> -	} while (cmpxchg(ptr, old__, new__) != old__);		\
> +	} while (!try_cmpxchg(ptr, &old__, new__));		\
>  								\
>  	new__;							\
>  })
> 
> 
> While there you probably want something like the above... 

As a separate change perhaps so that a revert (unlikely as it might be) could be
done with less pain.

> although,
> looking at it now, we seem to have 'forgotten' to add try_cmpxchg to the
> generic code :/

So it _has_ to be a separate change ;-)

But can we even provide a sane generic try_cmpxchg. The asm-generic cmpxchg relies
on local irq save etc so it is clearly only to prevent a new arch from failing to
compile. atomic*_cmpxchg() is different story since atomics have to be provided by
arch.

Anyhow what is more interesting is the try_cmpxchg API itself. So commit
a9ebf306f52c756 introduced/use of try_cmpxchg(), which indeed makes the looping
"nicer" to read and obvious code gen improvements.

So,
        for (;;) {
                new = val $op $imm;
                old = cmpxchg(ptr, val, new);
                if (old == val)
                        break;
                val = old;
        }

becomes

        do {
        } while (!try_cmpxchg(ptr, &val, val $op $imm));


But on pure LL/SC retry based arches, we still end up with generated code having 2
loops. We discussed something similar a while back: see [1]

First loop is inside inline asm to retry LL/SC and the outer one due to code
above. Explicit return of try_cmpxchg() means setting up a register with a boolean
status of cmpxchg (AFAIKR ARMv7 already does that but ARC e.g. uses a CPU flag
thus requires an additional insn or two). We could arguably remove the inline asm
loop and retry LL/SC from the outer loop, but it seems cleaner to keep the retry
where it belongs.

Also under the hood, try_cmpxchg() would end up re-reading it for the issue fixed
by commit 44fe84459faf1a.

Heck, it would all be simpler if we could express this w/o use of cmpxchg.

	try_some_op(ptr, &val, val $op $imm);

P.S. the horrible API name is for indicative purposes only

This would remove the outer loop completely, also avoid any re-reads due to the
semantics of cmpxchg etc.

[1] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2029217.html


  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-11 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-11  0:26 [PATCH 0/3] Replace opencoded set_mask_bits Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  0:26 ` Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  0:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] coredump: Replace opencoded set_mask_bits() Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  0:26   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  4:24   ` Anthony Yznaga
2019-01-11  0:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs: inode_set_flags() replace " Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  0:26   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  4:24   ` Anthony Yznaga
2019-01-11  0:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] bitops.h: set_mask_bits() to return old value Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  0:26   ` Vineet Gupta
2019-01-11  4:25   ` Anthony Yznaga
2019-01-11  9:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-11 20:58     ` Vineet Gupta [this message]
2019-01-11 20:58       ` Vineet Gupta
2019-01-14 19:00   ` Will Deacon

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