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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	 "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	 Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mmu_gather: move tlb flush for VM_PFNMAP/VM_MIXEDMAP vmas into free_pgtables()
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 18:34:48 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d01c2d60-3901-1f66-770f-e9d12bfd89b5@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250124083139.GB13226@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, 24 Jan 2025, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 08:42:36PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > The changelog of commit b67fbebd4cf9 ("mmu_gather: Force tlb-flush
> > VM_PFNMAP vmas") has not helped me either.  Nor could I locate any
> > discussion (Jann, Linus, Peter, Will?) that led up to it.
> 
> Hmm, that was probably on security -- I should have those mails around
> somewhere, I'll see if I can dig them up.

That was very helpful, thank you: I've gone through a lot of confusion,
but feeling more confident about it all today.

> 
> > To me, Peter's patch looks much like yours, except wth different
> > names and comments, plus the "vma" error you point out below.
> 
> Yes, 3 differences:
> 
>  - naming;
>  - the extra check;
>  - the vma_pfn clearing condition.
> 
> Under the assumption that this is all about those PFNs, the argument
> (as also outlined in the email to Roman just now) is that you only need
> to flush if both: you have pending TLBI for PFN and are indeed about to
> unlink a PFN vma.
> 
> If we've flushed the relevant PFNs earlier, for whatever reason,
> batching, or the arch has !MERGE_VMAS or whatever, then we do not need
> to flush again. So clearing vma_pfn in __tlb_reset_range() is the right
> place.

Yes, Roman moved to clearing vma_pfn in __tlb_reset_range() in his v3:
we are all in agreement on that.

> 
> Similarly, if we don't ever actually free/unlink the PFN vma, we also
> don't care.

I cannot think of a case in which we arrive at free_pgtables(), but do not
unlink the vma(s) which caused vma_pfn to be set.  If there is such a case,
it's not worth optimizing for; and wrong to check just the first vma in the
list (don't look only at the stable commit 895428ee124a which Roman cited -
it had to be fixed by 891f03f688de afterwards).

Personally, I prefer code inline in free_pgtables() which shows what's
going on, as Roman did in v1, rather than struggling to devise a
self-explanatory function name for something over there in tlb.h.

But I may be in a minority on that, and his tlb_flush_mmu_pfnmap()
is much more to the point than tlb_free_vma().

Hugh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-01-27  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 23:27 Roman Gushchin
2025-01-23  7:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-01-23  8:06   ` Hugh Dickins
2025-01-23 16:45   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-01-23 21:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-23 23:12   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-01-24  4:42     ` Hugh Dickins
2025-01-24  8:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-24  9:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-27  2:34         ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2025-01-27  9:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-24  8:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-01-25  1:23       ` Roman Gushchin
2025-01-27 10:03         ` Peter Zijlstra

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