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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	raybry@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	riel@redhat.com, piggin@cyberone.com.au, mbligh@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:34:15 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cone.1094520855.843610.6110.502@pc.kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040907000304.GA8083@logos.cnet>

Marcelo Tosatti writes:

> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:34:20AM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
>> Andrew Morton writes:
>> 
>> >Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> A scan of the change logs for swappiness related changes shows nothing 
>> >>that > might explain these changes.  My question is:  "Is this change in 
>> >> behavior
>> >> > deliberate, or just a side effect of other changes that were made in 
>> >> the vm?" > and "What kind of swappiness behavior might I expect to find 
>> >> in future kernels?".
>> >>
>> >> The change was not deliberate but there have been some other people 
>> >> report significant changes in the swappiness behaviour as well (see 
>> >> archives). It has usually been of the increased swapping variety lately. 
>> >> It has been annoying enough to the bleeding edge desktop users for a 
>> >> swag of out-of-tree hacks to start appearing (like mine).
>> >
>> >All of which is largely wasted effort.  It would be much more useful to get
>> >down and identify which patch actually caused the behavioural change.
>> 
>> I don't disagree. Is there anyone who has the time and is willing to do the 
>> regression testing? This is a general appeal to the mailing list.
> 
> Hi kernel fellows,
> 
> I volunteer. I'll try something tomorrow to compare swappiness of older kernels like  
> 2.6.5 and 2.6.6, which were fine on SGI's Altix tests, up to current newer kernels 
> (on small memory boxes of course).
> 
> Someone needs to write a vmstat-like tool to parse /proc/vmstat. 
> The statistics in there allows us to watch the behaviour of VM
> page reclaim code.
> 
> Con, if you could compile a list of reports we would be very grateful.

Apart from lots of "soft" reports I've been getting, the most obvious one 
recently on the mailing list is this: 

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237941331221&w=2

and no, I'm not referring to this thread because he tried one of my patches; 
that's an old patch that I'm not even pushing any more.

Cheers,
Con

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-07  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-06 19:11 Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:22   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:36     ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 22:37     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:51       ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07  0:31         ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 22:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:27   ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:34     ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07  0:03       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07  1:34         ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-09-07 10:38         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:56           ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-08 16:45             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  1:12               ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 17:03           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 21:20         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08  2:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 14:20           ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 16:54             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:35               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:30                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09  3:06                   ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  2:14                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 14:21                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09  3:09                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 14:16                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 17:23                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-28  1:54                       ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-28  3:36                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  0:36                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29  4:23                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15                             ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 17:31             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 18:04               ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 19:50                 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:55                     ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 22:20                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:22                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 22:28                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 23:42                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 19:54               ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19           ` Ray Bryant

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