From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
raybry@sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
riel@redhat.com, piggin@cyberone.com.au, mbligh@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: swapping and the value of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 11:34:15 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cone.1094520855.843610.6110.502@pc.kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040907000304.GA8083@logos.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti writes:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:34:20AM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
>> Andrew Morton writes:
>>
>> >Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> A scan of the change logs for swappiness related changes shows nothing
>> >>that > might explain these changes. My question is: "Is this change in
>> >> behavior
>> >> > deliberate, or just a side effect of other changes that were made in
>> >> the vm?" > and "What kind of swappiness behavior might I expect to find
>> >> in future kernels?".
>> >>
>> >> The change was not deliberate but there have been some other people
>> >> report significant changes in the swappiness behaviour as well (see
>> >> archives). It has usually been of the increased swapping variety lately.
>> >> It has been annoying enough to the bleeding edge desktop users for a
>> >> swag of out-of-tree hacks to start appearing (like mine).
>> >
>> >All of which is largely wasted effort. It would be much more useful to get
>> >down and identify which patch actually caused the behavioural change.
>>
>> I don't disagree. Is there anyone who has the time and is willing to do the
>> regression testing? This is a general appeal to the mailing list.
>
> Hi kernel fellows,
>
> I volunteer. I'll try something tomorrow to compare swappiness of older kernels like
> 2.6.5 and 2.6.6, which were fine on SGI's Altix tests, up to current newer kernels
> (on small memory boxes of course).
>
> Someone needs to write a vmstat-like tool to parse /proc/vmstat.
> The statistics in there allows us to watch the behaviour of VM
> page reclaim code.
>
> Con, if you could compile a list of reports we would be very grateful.
Apart from lots of "soft" reports I've been getting, the most obvious one
recently on the mailing list is this:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=109237941331221&w=2
and no, I'm not referring to this thread because he tried one of my patches;
that's an old patch that I'm not even pushing any more.
Cheers,
Con
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-07 1:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-06 19:11 Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 20:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 21:22 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 21:36 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 22:37 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:51 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 0:31 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-06 22:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-06 23:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-06 23:27 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-06 23:34 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 0:03 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-07 1:34 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-09-07 10:38 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-07 10:56 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-08 16:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 1:12 ` Con Kolivas
2004-09-07 17:03 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-07 21:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 2:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 14:20 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 16:54 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-08 19:35 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 19:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 3:06 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 2:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 14:21 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 3:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 14:16 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-09 17:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-28 1:54 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-28 3:36 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29 0:36 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-29 4:23 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-30 17:15 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 17:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 18:04 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 19:50 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 21:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 21:55 ` Diego Calleja
2004-09-08 22:20 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 23:22 ` Rik van Riel
2004-09-08 22:28 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-08 23:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-08 19:54 ` Ray Bryant
2004-09-08 15:19 ` Ray Bryant
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