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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>
Cc: lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, richard.weiyang@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] mm: khugepaged: skip lazy-free folios at scanning
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:35:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf094519-82e1-4f11-b670-dacf89da22ef@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACZaFFNJO+-yZdDPdN-5rQLuJvT5cp2pbtqV13FHo9PeqtxARg@mail.gmail.com>



On 2026/1/5 11:12, Vernon Yang wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 10:51 AM Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev> wrote:
>>
>> On 2026/1/5 09:48, Vernon Yang wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 04, 2026 at 08:10:17PM +0800, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2026/1/4 13:41, Vernon Yang wrote:
>>>>> For example, create three task: hot1 -> cold -> hot2. After all three
>>>>> task are created, each allocate memory 128MB. the hot1/hot2 task
>>>>> continuously access 128 MB memory, while the cold task only accesses
>>>>> its memory briefly andthen call madvise(MADV_FREE). However, khugepaged
>>>>> still prioritizes scanning the cold task and only scans the hot2 task
>>>>> after completing the scan of the cold task.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if the user has explicitly informed us via MADV_FREE that this memory
>>>>> will be freed, it is appropriate for khugepaged to skip it only, thereby
>>>>> avoiding unnecessary scan and collapse operations to reducing CPU
>>>>> wastage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the performance test results:
>>>>> (Throughput bigger is better, other smaller is better)
>>>>>
>>>>> Testing on x86_64 machine:
>>>>>
>>>>> | task hot2           | without patch | with patch    |  delta  |
>>>>> |---------------------|---------------|---------------|---------|
>>>>> | total accesses time |  3.14 sec     |  2.93 sec     | -6.69%  |
>>>>> | cycles per access   |  4.96         |  2.21         | -55.44% |
>>>>> | Throughput          |  104.38 M/sec |  111.89 M/sec | +7.19%  |
>>>>> | dTLB-load-misses    |  284814532    |  69597236     | -75.56% |
>>>>>
>>>>> Testing on qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm:
>>>>>
>>>>> | task hot2           | without patch | with patch    |  delta  |
>>>>> |---------------------|---------------|---------------|---------|
>>>>> | total accesses time |  3.35 sec     |  2.96 sec     | -11.64% |
>>>>> | cycles per access   |  7.29         |  2.07         | -71.60% |
>>>>> | Throughput          |  97.67 M/sec  |  110.77 M/sec | +13.41% |
>>>>> | dTLB-load-misses    |  241600871    |  3216108      | -98.67% |
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>     include/trace/events/huge_memory.h | 1 +
>>>>>     mm/khugepaged.c                    | 6 ++++++
>>>>>     2 files changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>>>>> index 01225dd27ad5..e99d5f71f2a4 100644
>>>>> --- a/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>>>>> +++ b/include/trace/events/huge_memory.h
>>>>> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_PAGE_LRU,              "page_not_in_lru")              \
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_PAGE_LOCK,             "page_locked")                  \
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_PAGE_ANON,             "page_not_anon")                \
>>>>> +   EM( SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE,         "page_lazyfree")                \
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND,         "page_compound")                \
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_ANY_PROCESS,           "no_process_for_page")          \
>>>>>      EM( SCAN_VMA_NULL,              "vma_null")                     \
>>>>> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>> index 30786c706c4a..1ca034a5f653 100644
>>>>> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
>>>>> @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ enum scan_result {
>>>>>      SCAN_PAGE_LRU,
>>>>>      SCAN_PAGE_LOCK,
>>>>>      SCAN_PAGE_ANON,
>>>>> +   SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE,
>>>>>      SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND,
>>>>>      SCAN_ANY_PROCESS,
>>>>>      SCAN_VMA_NULL,
>>>>> @@ -1337,6 +1338,11 @@ static int hpage_collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>>>>              }
>>>>>              folio = page_folio(page);
>>>>> +           if (folio_is_lazyfree(folio)) {
>>>>> +                   result = SCAN_PAGE_LAZYFREE;
>>>>> +                   goto out_unmap;
>>>>> +           }
>>>>
>>>> That's a bit tricky ... I don't think we need to handle MADV_FREE pages
>>>> differently :)
>>>>
>>>> MADV_FREE pages are likely cold memory, but what if there are just
>>>> a few MADV_FREE pages in a hot memory region? Skipping the entire
>>>> region would be unfortunate ...
>>>
>>> If there are hot in lazyfree folios, the folio will be set as non-lazyfree
>>> in the memory reclaim path, it is not skipped in the next scan in the
>>> khugepaged.
>>>
>>> shrink_folio_list()
>>>     try_to_unmap()
>>>       folio_set_swapbacked()
>>>
>>> If there are no hot in lazyfree folios, continuing the collapse would
>>> waste CPU and require a long wait (khugepaged_scan_sleep_millisecs).
>>> Additionally, due to collapse hugepage become non-lazyfree, preventing
>>> the rapid release of lazyfree folios in the memory reclaim path.
>>>
>>> So skipping lazy-free folios make sense here for us.
>>>
>>> If I missed something, please let me know, thank!
>>
>> I'm not saying lazyfree pages become hot :)
>>
>> If a PMD region has mostly hot pages but just a few lazyfree
>> pages, we would skip the entire region. Those hot pages won't
>> be collapsed.
> 
> Same above, the lazyfree folios will be set as non-lazyfree

Nop ...

> in the memory reclaim path, it is not skipped in the next scan,
> the PMD region will collapse :)

Let me be more specific:

Assume we have a PMD region (512 pages):
- Pages 0-499: hot pages (frequently accessed, NOT lazyfree)
- Pages 500-511: lazyfree pages (MADV_FREE'd and clean)

This patch skips the entire region when it hits page 500. So pages
0-499 can't be collapsed, even though they are hot.

I'm NOT saying lazyfree pages themselves become hot ;)

As I mentioned earlier, even if we skip these pages now, after they
are reclaimed they become pte_none. Then khugepaged will try to
collapse them anyway (based on khugepaged_max_ptes_none). So
skipping them just delays things, it does not really change the
final result ...

> 
>>>
>>>> Also, even if we skip these pages now, after they are reclaimed, they
>>>> become pte_none. Then khugepaged will try to collapse them anyway
>>>> (based on khugepaged_max_ptes_none). So skipping them just delays
>>>> things, it does not really change the final result ;)
>>>
>>> This patch just resolve scene for hot1 -> cold -> hot2.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vernon
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-05  3:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-04  5:41 [PATCH v3 0/6] Improve khugepaged scan logic Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] mm: khugepaged: add trace_mm_khugepaged_scan event Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] mm: khugepaged: refine scan progress number Vernon Yang
2026-01-05 16:49   ` David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)
2026-01-06  5:55     ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] mm: khugepaged: just skip when the memory has been collapsed Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] mm: add folio_is_lazyfree helper Vernon Yang
2026-01-04 11:42   ` Lance Yang
2026-01-05  2:09     ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] mm: khugepaged: skip lazy-free folios at scanning Vernon Yang
2026-01-04 12:10   ` Lance Yang
2026-01-05  1:48     ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-05  2:51       ` Lance Yang
2026-01-05  3:12         ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-05  3:35           ` Lance Yang [this message]
2026-01-05 12:30             ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-06 10:33               ` Barry Song
2026-01-07  8:36                 ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-04  5:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] mm: khugepaged: set to next mm direct when mm has MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY Vernon Yang
2026-01-04 12:20   ` Lance Yang
2026-01-05  0:31     ` Wei Yang
2026-01-05  2:09       ` Lance Yang
2026-01-05  2:06     ` Vernon Yang
2026-01-05  2:20       ` Lance Yang

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