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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Roesch <shr@devkernel.io>, kernel-team@fb.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, riel@surriel.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: add new KSM process and sysfs knobs
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 19:04:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce494e5a-3540-d6ad-4e9c-0bb49c7e1e1b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230310182851.2579138-3-shr@devkernel.io>

On 10.03.23 19:28, Stefan Roesch wrote:
> This adds the general_profit KSM sysfs knob and the process profit metric
> and process merge type knobs to ksm_stat.
> 
> 1) split off pages_volatile function
> 
>     This splits off the pages_volatile function.  The next patch will
>     use this function.
> 
> 2) expose general_profit metric
> 
>     The documentation mentions a general profit metric, however this
>     metric is not calculated.  In addition the formula depends on the size
>     of internal structures, which makes it more difficult for an
>     administrator to make the calculation.  Adding the metric for a better
>     user experience.
> 
> 3) document general_profit sysfs knob
> 
> 4) calculate ksm process profit metric
> 
>     The ksm documentation mentions the process profit metric and how to
>     calculate it.  This adds the calculation of the metric.
> 
> 5) add ksm_merge_type() function
> 
>     This adds the ksm_merge_type function.  The function returns the
>     merge type for the process.  For madvise it returns "madvise", for
>     prctl it returns "process" and otherwise it returns "none".
> 
> 6) mm: expose ksm process profit metric and merge type in ksm_stat
> 
>     This exposes the ksm process profit metric in /proc/<pid>/ksm_stat.
>     The name of the value is ksm_merge_type.  The documentation mentions
>     the formula for the ksm process profit metric, however it does not
>     calculate it.  In addition the formula depends on the size of internal
>     structures.  So it makes sense to expose it.
> 
> 7) document new procfs ksm knobs
> 

Often, when you have to start making a list of things that a patch does, 
it might make sense to split some of the items into separate patches 
such that you can avoid lists and just explain in list-free text how the 
pieces in the patch fit together.

I'd suggest splitting this patch into logical pieces. For example, 
separating the general profit calculation/exposure from the per-mm 
profit and the per-mm ksm type indication.

> Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20230224044000.3084046-3-shr@devkernel.io
> Signed-off-by: Stefan Roesch <shr@devkernel.io>
> Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> ---


[...]

>   KSM_ATTR_RO(pages_volatile);
>   
> @@ -3280,6 +3305,21 @@ static ssize_t zero_pages_sharing_show(struct kobject *kobj,
>   }
>   KSM_ATTR_RO(zero_pages_sharing);
>   
> +static ssize_t general_profit_show(struct kobject *kobj,
> +				   struct kobj_attribute *attr, char *buf)
> +{
> +	long general_profit;
> +	long all_rmap_items;
> +
> +	all_rmap_items = ksm_max_page_sharing + ksm_pages_shared +
> +				ksm_pages_unshared + pages_volatile();

Are you sure you want to count a config knob (ksm_max_page_sharing) into 
that formula? I yet have to digest what this calculation implies, but it 
does feel odd.


Further, maybe just avoid pages_volatile(). Expanding the formula 
(excluding ksm_max_page_sharing for now):

all_rmap = ksm_pages_shared + ksm_pages_unshared + pages_volatile();

-> expand pages_volatile() (ignoring the < 0 case)

all_rmap = ksm_pages_shared + ksm_pages_unshared + ksm_rmap_items - 
ksm_pages_shared - ksm_pages_sharing - ksm_pages_unshared;

-> simplify

all_rmap = ksm_rmap_items + ksm_pages_sharing;

Or is the < 0 case relevant here?

> +	general_profit = ksm_pages_sharing * PAGE_SIZE -
> +				all_rmap_items * sizeof(struct ksm_rmap_item);
> +
> +	return sysfs_emit(buf, "%ld\n", general_profit);
> +}
> +KSM_ATTR_RO(general_profit);
> +
>   static ssize_t stable_node_dups_show(struct kobject *kobj,
>   				     struct kobj_attribute *attr, char *buf)
>   {
> @@ -3345,6 +3385,7 @@ static struct attribute *ksm_attrs[] = {
>   	&stable_node_dups_attr.attr,
>   	&stable_node_chains_prune_millisecs_attr.attr,
>   	&use_zero_pages_attr.attr,
> +	&general_profit_attr.attr,
>   	NULL,
>   };
>   

The calculations (profit) don't include when KSM places the shared 
zeropage I guess. Accounting that per MM (and eventually globally) is in 
the works. [1]


[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230328153852.26c2577e4bd921c371c47a7e@linux-foundation.org/t/

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-05 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-10 18:28 [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: process/cgroup ksm support Stefan Roesch
2023-03-10 18:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: add new api to enable ksm per process Stefan Roesch
2023-03-13 16:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-03 10:37   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-03 11:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-04 16:32       ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-04 16:43       ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-05  6:51       ` Christian Borntraeger
2023-04-05 16:04         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-03 15:50     ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-03 17:02       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-10 18:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: add new KSM process and sysfs knobs Stefan Roesch
2023-04-05 17:04   ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-04-05 21:20     ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-06 13:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-06 14:16         ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-06 14:32           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-10 18:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] selftests/mm: add new selftests for KSM Stefan Roesch
2023-03-15 20:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] mm: process/cgroup ksm support David Hildenbrand
2023-03-15 20:23   ` Mike Kravetz
2023-03-15 21:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-15 21:19     ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-15 21:45       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-15 21:47         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-30 16:19         ` Stefan Roesch
2023-03-28 23:09 ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-30  4:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-30 14:26     ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-30 14:40       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-30 16:41         ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-03  9:48           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-03 16:34             ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-03 17:04               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-04-06 16:59               ` Stefan Roesch
2023-04-06 17:10                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-03-30 20:18     ` Andrew Morton

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