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From: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	ldufour@linux.vnet.ibm.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, jolsa@redhat.com,
	namhyung@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 PATCH 4/5] mm: mmap: zap pages with read mmap_sem for large mapping
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 21:26:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce2f93d3-fe0e-89c2-5465-94cfa974f1ea@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180629201547.5322cfc4b52d19a0443daec2@linux-foundation.org>



On 6/29/18 8:15 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 19:28:15 -0700 Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> we're adding a bunch of code to 32-bit kernels which will never be
>>> executed.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking it would be better to be much more explicit with "#ifdef
>>> CONFIG_64BIT" in this code, rather than relying upon the above magic.
>>>
>>> But I tend to think that the fact that we haven't solved anything on
>>> locked vmas or on uprobed mappings is a shostopper for the whole
>>> approach :(
>> I agree it is not that perfect. But, it still could improve the most use
>> cases.
> Well, those unaddressed usecases will need to be fixed at some point.

Yes, definitely.

> What's our plan for that?

As I mentioned in the earlier email, locked and hugetlb cases might be 
able to be solved by separating vm_flags update and actual unmap. I will 
look into it further later.

 From my point of view, uprobe mapping sounds not that vital.

>
> Would one of your earlier designs have addressed all usecases?  I
> expect the dumb unmap-a-little-bit-at-a-time approach would have?

Yes. The v1 design does unmap with holding write map_sem. So, the 
vm_flags update is not a problem.

Thanks,
Yang

>
>> For the locked vmas and hugetlb vmas, unmapping operations need modify
>> vm_flags. But, I'm wondering we might be able to separate unmap and
>> vm_flags update. Because we know they will be unmapped right away, the
>> vm_flags might be able to be updated in write mmap_sem critical section
>> before the actual unmap is called or after it. This is just off the top
>> of my head.
>>
>> For uprobed mappings, I'm not sure how vital it is to this case.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yang
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-30  4:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-29 22:39 [RFC v3 PATCH 0/5] mm: zap pages with read mmap_sem in munmap " Yang Shi
2018-06-29 22:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 1/5] uprobes: make vma_has_uprobes non-static Yang Shi
2018-06-29 22:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 2/5] mm: introduce VM_DEAD flag Yang Shi
2018-07-02 13:40   ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 22:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 3/5] mm: refactor do_munmap() to extract the common part Yang Shi
2018-07-02 13:42   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 16:59     ` Yang Shi
2018-07-02 17:58       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 18:02         ` Yang Shi
2018-06-29 22:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 4/5] mm: mmap: zap pages with read mmap_sem for large mapping Yang Shi
2018-06-30  1:28   ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-30  2:10     ` Yang Shi
2018-06-30  1:35   ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-30  2:28     ` Yang Shi
2018-06-30  3:15       ` Andrew Morton
2018-06-30  4:26         ` Yang Shi [this message]
2018-07-03  0:01           ` Yang Shi
2018-07-02 14:05         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 20:48           ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-03  6:09             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03 16:53               ` Yang Shi
2018-07-03 18:22               ` Yang Shi
2018-07-04  8:13                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 12:33   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-02 12:49     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03  8:12       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03  8:27         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03  9:19           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 11:34             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03 12:14               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-03 17:00                 ` Yang Shi
2018-07-02 17:19     ` Yang Shi
2018-07-03  8:07       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-07-02 13:53   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 17:07     ` Yang Shi
2018-06-29 22:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 5/5] x86: check VM_DEAD flag in page fault Yang Shi
2018-07-02  8:45   ` Laurent Dufour
2018-07-02 12:15     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 12:26       ` Laurent Dufour
2018-07-02 12:45         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 13:33           ` Laurent Dufour
2018-07-02 13:37             ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 17:24               ` Yang Shi
2018-07-02 17:57                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-02 18:10                   ` Yang Shi
2018-07-03  6:17                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-03 16:50                       ` Yang Shi
2018-07-02 13:39 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 0/5] mm: zap pages with read mmap_sem in munmap for large mapping Michal Hocko

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