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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] hp: Implement Hazard Pointers
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:52:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cd41b389-6374-4f84-996c-0fe778962a47@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwPmc_CXW15ilRaK@boqun-archlinux>

On 2024-10-07 15:47, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 09:30:53AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> [...]
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Use RCU dereference without lockdep checks, because
>>>> +	 * lockdep is not aware of HP guarantees.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	addr2 = rcu_access_pointer(*addr_p);	/* Load A */
>>>
>>> Why rcu_access_pointer() instead of READ_ONCE()? Because you want to
>>> mark the head of address dependency?
>>
>> Yes, the intent here is to mark the address dependency and provide
>> a publication guarantee similar to RCU pairing rcu_assign_pointer
>> and rcu_dereference. Do you see any reason why READ_ONCE() would
>> suffice here ?
> 
> READ_ONCE() also provides address dependencies. See the "DEPENDENCY
> RELATIONS: data, addr, and ctrl" section in
> tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanantion.txt.

Fair point, so let's use READ_ONCE() then.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mathieu
>>

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com



  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-02  1:02 [RFC PATCH 0/4] sched+mm: Track lazy active mm existence with hazard pointers Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] compiler.h: Introduce ptr_eq() to preserve address dependency Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03  0:08   ` Joel Fernandes
2024-10-03 14:19     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:09       ` Joel Fernandes
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] Documentation: RCU: Refer to ptr_eq() Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] hp: Implement Hazard Pointers Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03  0:24   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03 13:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-07 13:47       ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-07 14:52         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2024-10-02  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] sched+mm: Use hazard pointers to track lazy active mm existence Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 14:09 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] sched+mm: Track lazy active mm existence with hazard pointers Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-02 15:26   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-02 15:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:53         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 15:58           ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 16:02             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-02 16:14               ` Jens Axboe
2024-10-02 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-05 16:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-05 16:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-10-07  7:06       ` Peter Zijlstra

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