From: Gladyshev Ilya <gladyshev.ilya1@h-partners.com>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: improve folio refcount scalability
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 10:31:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb821f39-ce0c-44fd-aec1-9ad19e6355f5@h-partners.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWUdHYjHPQGpF-92@thinkstation>
On 1/12/2026 7:17 PM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 05:32:10PM +0300, Gladyshev Ilya wrote:
>> On 1/12/2026 2:49 PM, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 11:30:38AM +0300, Gladyshev Ilya wrote:
>>>> Gentle ping on this proposal
>>>
>>> I generally like the idea, but I would like to hear from folks who
>>> actually understand serialization.
>>>
>>> Also, do you have number for "a full CAS loop when the counter is
>>> approaching overflow" thing?
>>>
>> I am not sure that overflow is a real problem because you need a very
>> specific race condition over a long time to achieve it...
>
> Yes. But if the page is popular for pinning, GUP_PIN_COUNTING_BIAS can
> cut the "very long time" substantially.
>
>> But as a safeguard, everything lower than 2^31 - #max concurrent
>> accesses (~#num cpu) should work, so let's say 2^30
>
> What I meant is when we put a branch/loop in the hot path, your
> performance numbers will likely not look as attractive. Am I wrong?
>
It would be under the same branch as the single CAS that already exists
in this patch:
if (page_count_writable(page)) {
val = atomic_add_return(nr, &page->_refcount);
ret = !(val & PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);
if (unlikely(!ret)) {
atomic_cmpxchg_relaxed(&page->_refcount, val, PAGEREF_LOCKED_BIT);
/* [Proposed] if (failed && big enough) { CAS loop } */
}
}
Unless the "failed try_lock()" is the hot path somewhere[1], this added
branch will be hidden under the already existing [unlikely taken] branch
[1]: Which I doubt, because failed try_lock() usually includes heavy
re-lookup
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-13 7:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-19 12:46 Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 12:46 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm: make ref_unless functions unless_zero only Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 12:46 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: implement page refcount locking via dedicated bit Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 14:50 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 16:18 ` Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-19 17:46 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 19:08 ` Gladyshev Ilya
2025-12-22 13:33 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-12-19 18:17 ` Gregory Price
2025-12-22 12:42 ` Gladyshev Ilya
2026-01-12 8:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: improve folio refcount scalability Gladyshev Ilya
2026-01-12 11:49 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-01-12 14:32 ` Gladyshev Ilya
2026-01-12 16:17 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-01-13 7:31 ` Gladyshev Ilya [this message]
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