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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] drivers/base/memory.c: Don't store end_section_nr in memory blocks
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:21:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c92a4d6f-b0f2-e080-5157-b90ab61a8c49@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190731141411.GU9330@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 31.07.19 16:14, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 31-07-19 15:42:53, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 31.07.19 15:25, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
>>> I know we have documented this as an ABI and it is really _sad_ that
>>> this ABI didn't get through normal scrutiny any user visible interface
>>> should go through but these are sins of the past...
>>
>> A quick google search indicates that
>>
>> Kata containers queries the block size:
>> https://github.com/kata-containers/runtime/issues/796
>>
>> Powerpc userspace queries it:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/powerpc-utils-devel/dKjZCqpTxus/AwkstV2ABwAJ
>>
>> I can imagine that ppc dynamic memory onlines only pieces of added
>> memory - DIMMs AFAIK (haven't looked at the details).
>>
>> There might be more users.
> 
> Thanks! I suspect most of them are just using the information because
> they do not have anything better.

powerpc-utils actually seem to use the fine-grained API to dynamically
manage memory assignment to the VM.

> 
> Thinking about it some more, I believe that we can reasonably provide
> both APIs controlable by a command line parameter for backwards
> compatibility. It is the hotplug code to control sysfs APIs.  E.g.
> create one sysfs entry per add_memory_resource for the new semantic.

Yeah, but the real question is: who needs it. I can only think about
some DIMM scenarios (some, not all). I would be interested in more use
cases. Of course, to provide and maintain two APIs we need a good reason.

(one sysfs per add_memory_resource() won't cover all DIMMs completely as
far as I remember - I might be wrong, I remember there could be a
sequence of add_memory(). Also, some DIMMs might actually overlap with
memory indicated during boot - complicated stuff)

> 
> It is some time since I've checked the ACPI side of the matter but that
> code shouldn't really depend on a particular size of the memblock
> either when trigerring udev events. I might be wrong here of course.

It only has to respect the alignment/size restriction when calling
add_memory() right now. That would map to a "minimum block size"

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-31 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31 12:22 David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 12:43 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31 13:12   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 13:25     ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31 13:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 14:04         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 14:15           ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31 14:23             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 14:14         ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31 14:21           ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-07-31 14:37             ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-31 14:43               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-01  6:13                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-01  7:00                   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-08-01  8:27                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-08-01  8:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-07-31 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2019-08-01  6:48   ` David Hildenbrand

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