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PMADV_SET_FORK_EXEC_DEFAULT >>>> >>>> It may be desirable for a user to specify that all VMAs mapped in a process >>>> address space default to having an madvise() behaviour established by >>>> default, in such a fashion as that this persists across fork/exec. >>> >>> This is very specific for MADV_HUGEPAGE only, so I wonder how we could >>> either avoid that flag or just make it clear that it shall stick around ... >>> > > Sorry missed this bit. > > I don't really like the idea of only for MADV_HUGEPAGE (and MADV_NOHUGEPAGE) > defaulting to doing this, I think that's far less clear than a user explicitly > asking for it, plus most users using process_madvise() wouldn't expect it. The thing is that PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE already adds something unexpected: suddenly also *new* mappings will be affected. But maybe that'd be covered by the PMADV_SET_DEFAULT idea. Maybe PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE | PMADV_SET_DEFAULT | PMADV_SET_EXEC_DEFAULT ... hm, but "PMADV_ENTIRE_ADDRESS_SPACE" can then simply be "pass in the entire address space as a range" ... and ignore errors. I'd probably have to see a revised proposal after the current discussions. Anyhow, limiting the flags to a bare minimum for now usually makes sense, as long as it is expandable. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb