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From: Kirill Tkhai <tkhai@ya.ru>
To: "Qi Zheng" <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	shakeelb@google.com, mhocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, david@redhat.com, shy828301@gmail.com,
	rppt@kernel.org
Cc: sultan@kerneltoast.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp, paulmck@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 7/8] mm: vmscan: remove shrinker_rwsem from synchronize_shrinkers()
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 22:34:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c90b250e-822f-9f3b-8327-a0296e38cd1b@ya.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85f9e200-dabe-7340-b76d-6525988054aa@bytedance.com>

On 09.03.2023 11:32, Qi Zheng wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> On 2023/3/9 16:11, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 09.03.23 um 08:06 schrieb Qi Zheng:
>>> Hi Kirill,
>>>
>>> On 2023/3/9 06:39, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
>>>> On 07.03.2023 09:56, Qi Zheng wrote:
>>>>> Now there are no readers of shrinker_rwsem, so
>>>>> synchronize_shrinkers() does not need to hold the
>>>>> writer of shrinker_rwsem to wait for all running
>>>>> shinkers to complete, synchronize_srcu() is enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>   mm/vmscan.c | 8 ++------
>>>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>>>>> index 7aaf6f94ac1b..ac7ab4aa344f 100644
>>>>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>>>>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>>>>> @@ -796,15 +796,11 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(unregister_shrinker);
>>>>>   /**
>>>>>    * synchronize_shrinkers - Wait for all running shrinkers to complete.
>>>>>    *
>>>>> - * This is equivalent to calling unregister_shrink() and register_shrinker(),
>>>>> - * but atomically and with less overhead. This is useful to guarantee that all
>>>>> - * shrinker invocations have seen an update, before freeing memory, similar to
>>>>> - * rcu.
>>>>> + * This is useful to guarantee that all shrinker invocations have seen an
>>>>> + * update, before freeing memory.
>>>>>    */
>>>>>   void synchronize_shrinkers(void)
>>>>>   {
>>>>> -    down_write(&shrinker_rwsem);
>>>>> -    up_write(&shrinker_rwsem);
>>>>>       atomic_inc(&shrinker_srcu_generation);
>>>>>       synchronize_srcu(&shrinker_srcu);
>>>>>   }
>>>>
>>>> Just curious, callers of synchronize_shrinkers() don't want to have parallel register_shrinker() and unregister_shrink() are completed?
>>>> Here we only should wait for parallel shrink_slab(), correct?
>>>
>>> I think yes.
>>>
>>> The synchronize_shrinkers() is currently only used by TTM pool.
>>>
>>> In TTM pool, a shrinker named "drm-ttm_pool" is registered, and
>>> the scan_objects callback will pick an entry from its own shrinker_list:
>>>
>>> ttm_pool_shrink
>>> --> spin_lock(&shrinker_lock);
>>>     pt = list_first_entry(&shrinker_list, typeof(*pt), shrinker_list);
>>>     list_move_tail(&pt->shrinker_list, &shrinker_list);
>>>     spin_unlock(&shrinker_lock);
>>>
>>> These entries have been removed from shrinker_list before calling
>>> synchronize_shrinkers():
>>>
>>> ttm_pool_fini
>>> --> ttm_pool_type_fini
>>>     --> spin_lock(&shrinker_lock);
>>>     list_del(&pt->shrinker_list);
>>>     spin_unlock(&shrinker_lock);
>>>     synchronize_shrinkers
>>>
>>> So IIUC, we only need to wait for the parallel shrink_slab() here. Like
>>> its comment says:
>>>
>>> /* We removed the pool types from the LRU, but we need to also make sure
>>>  * that no shrinker is concurrently freeing pages from the pool.
>>>  */
>>
>> Yes your analyses is completely correct.
>>
>> I just didn't wanted to add another SRCU into the critical code paths of the TTM pool just for device hot plug when I have that functionality already.
>>
>> We just make sure that no shrinker is running in parallel with destruction of the pool. Registering and unregistering is harmless.
> 
> That's great, thanks for confirming.
> 
> Thanks,
> Qi

Christian and Qi, thanks for the explanation.

>>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>>
>>> + CC: Christian König :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Qi
>>
>>



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-09 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-07  6:55 [PATCH v4 0/8] make slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-03-07  6:55 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] mm: vmscan: add a map_nr_max field to shrinker_info Qi Zheng
2023-03-08 14:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-08 22:13   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-09  6:33     ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-07  6:55 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] mm: vmscan: make global slab shrink lockless Qi Zheng
2023-03-08 15:02   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-08 22:18   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] mm: vmscan: make memcg " Qi Zheng
2023-03-08 22:23   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-08 22:46   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09  6:47     ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] mm: vmscan: add shrinker_srcu_generation Qi Zheng
2023-03-09  9:23   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09 10:12     ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] mm: shrinkers: make count and scan in shrinker debugfs lockless Qi Zheng
2023-03-09  9:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09  9:39   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09 10:14     ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-09 19:30   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] mm: vmscan: hold write lock to reparent shrinker nr_deferred Qi Zheng
2023-03-09  9:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] mm: vmscan: remove shrinker_rwsem from synchronize_shrinkers() Qi Zheng
2023-03-08 22:39   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-09  7:06     ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-09  8:11       ` Christian König
2023-03-09  8:32         ` Qi Zheng
2023-03-09 19:34           ` Kirill Tkhai [this message]
2023-03-09  9:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09 19:34   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-07  6:56 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] mm: shrinkers: convert shrinker_rwsem to mutex Qi Zheng
2023-03-09  9:42   ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-09 19:49   ` Kirill Tkhai
2023-03-07 22:20 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] make slab shrink lockless Andrew Morton
2023-03-08 11:59   ` Qi Zheng

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