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If set, don't touch the refcount >>>>>> and the mapcount. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because then, we can just make all the relevant drivers set the type, refuse >>>>>> in vm_insert_pages_prot() anything that doesn't have the type set, and >>>>>> refuse in vm_normal_page() any pages with this memdesc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we'd have to teach CoW to copy from such pages, maybe not. GUP of >>>>>> these things will stop working, I hope that is not a problem. >>>>> >>>>> Well... perf-tool likes to call write() upon these pages in order to >>>>> write out the data from the mmap() into a file. >>> >>> I'm confused about what you mean, write() using the fd should work fine, how >>> would they interact with the mmap? I mean be making a silly mistake here >> >> write() to file from the mmap()'ed address range to *some* file. >> > > Yeah sorry my brain melted down briefly, for some reason was thinking of read() > writing into the buffer... > >> This will GUP the pages you inserted. >> >> GUP does not work on PFNMAP. > > Well it _does_ if struct page **pages is set to NULL :) Hm? :) check_vma_flags() unconditionally refuses VM_PFNMAP. -- Cheers, David / dhildenb