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From: bibo mao <maobibo@loongson.cn>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	mike.kravetz@oracle.com, apopple@nvidia.com, jgg@nvidia.com,
	rppt@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	david@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: Unmap pages only when it's indeed protected for NUMA migration
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:44:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8ccc8f1-300a-09be-db6b-df2a1dedd4cf@loongson.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <107cdaaf-237f-16b9-ebe2-7eefd2b21f8f@loongson.cn>



在 2023/8/16 10:43, bibo mao 写道:
> 
> 
> 在 2023/8/15 22:50, Sean Christopherson 写道:
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, Yan Zhao wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 09:40:44AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>>> Note, I'm assuming secondary MMUs aren't allowed to map swap entries...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Compile tested only.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't find a matching end to each
>>>>> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start_nonblock().
>>>>
>>>> It pairs with existing call to mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end() in change_pmd_range():
>>>>
>>>> 	if (range.start)
>>>> 		mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end(&range);
>>> No, It doesn't work for mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start() sent in change_pte_range(),
>>> if we only want the range to include pages successfully set to PROT_NONE.
>>
>> Precise invalidation was a non-goal for my hack-a-patch.  The intent was purely
>> to defer invalidation until it was actually needed, but still perform only a
>> single notification so as to batch the TLB flushes, e.g. the start() call still
>> used the original @end.
>>
>> The idea was to play nice with the scenario where nothing in a VMA could be migrated.
>> It was complete untested though, so it may not have actually done anything to reduce
>> the number of pointless invalidations.
> For numa-balance scenery, can original page still be used by application even if pte
> is changed with PROT_NONE?  If it can be used, maybe we can zap shadow mmu and flush tlb
Since there is kvm_mmu_notifier_change_pte notification when numa page is replaced with
new page, my meaning that can original page still be used by application even if pte
is changed with PROT_NONE and before replaced with new page?

And for primary mmu, tlb is flushed after pte is changed with PROT_NONE and 
after mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end notification for secondary mmu.

Regards
Bibo Mao
> in notification mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_end with precised range, the range can
> be cross-range between range mmu_gather and mmu_notifier_range.
> 
> Regards
> Bibo Mao
>>
>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>> index 9e4cd8b4a202..f29718a16211 100644
>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>> @@ -4345,6 +4345,9 @@ static int kvm_faultin_pfn(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct kvm_page_fault *fault,
>>>>  	if (unlikely(!fault->slot))
>>>>  		return kvm_handle_noslot_fault(vcpu, fault, access);
>>>>  
>>>> +	if (mmu_invalidate_retry_hva(vcpu->kvm, fault->mmu_seq, fault->hva))
>>>> +		return RET_PF_RETRY;
>>>> +
>>> This can effectively reduce the remote flush IPIs a lot!
>>> One Nit is that, maybe rmb() or READ_ONCE() is required for kvm->mmu_invalidate_range_start
>>> and kvm->mmu_invalidate_range_end.
>>> Otherwise, I'm somewhat worried about constant false positive and retry.
>>
>> If anything, this needs a READ_ONCE() on mmu_invalidate_in_progress.  The ranges
>> aren't touched when when mmu_invalidate_in_progress goes to zero, so ensuring they
>> are reloaded wouldn't do anything.  The key to making forward progress is seeing
>> that there is no in-progress invalidation.
>>
>> I did consider adding said READ_ONCE(), but practically speaking, constant false
>> positives are impossible.  KVM will re-enter the guest when retrying, and there
>> is zero chance of the compiler avoiding reloads across VM-Enter+VM-Exit.
>>
>> I suppose in theory we might someday differentiate between "retry because a different
>> vCPU may have fixed the fault" and "retry because there's an in-progress invalidation",
>> and not bother re-entering the guest for the latter, e.g. have it try to yield
>> instead.  
>>
>> All that said, READ_ONCE() on mmu_invalidate_in_progress should effectively be a
>> nop, so it wouldn't hurt to be paranoid in this case.
>>
>> Hmm, at that point, it probably makes sense to add a READ_ONCE() for mmu_invalidate_seq
>> too, e.g. so that a sufficiently clever compiler doesn't completely optimize away
>> the check.  Losing the check wouldn't be problematic (false negatives are fine,
>> especially on that particular check), but the generated code would *look* buggy.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-10  8:56 [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] Reduce NUMA balance caused TLB-shootdowns in a VM Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  8:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/5] mm/mmu_notifier: introduce a new mmu notifier flag MMU_NOTIFIER_RANGE_NUMA Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  8:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/5] mm: don't set PROT_NONE to maybe-dma-pinned pages for NUMA-migrate purpose Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  9:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/5] mm/mmu_notifier: introduce a new callback .numa_protect Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  9:00 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/5] mm/autonuma: call .numa_protect() when page is protected for NUMA migrate Yan Zhao
2023-08-11 18:52   ` Nadav Amit
2023-08-14  7:52     ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-10  9:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: Unmap pages only when it's indeed protected for NUMA migration Yan Zhao
2023-08-10 13:16   ` bibo mao
2023-08-11  3:45     ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-11  7:40       ` bibo mao
2023-08-11  8:01         ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-11 17:14           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-11 17:18             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-14  6:52             ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-14  7:44               ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-14 16:40               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-15  1:54                 ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-15 14:50                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-16  2:43                     ` bibo mao
2023-08-16  3:44                       ` bibo mao [this message]
2023-08-16  5:14                         ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-16  7:29                           ` bibo mao
2023-08-16  7:18                             ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-16  7:53                               ` bibo mao
2023-08-16 13:39                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-10  9:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/5] Reduce NUMA balance caused TLB-shootdowns in a VM David Hildenbrand
2023-08-10  9:50   ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-11 17:25     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 18:20       ` John Hubbard
2023-08-11 18:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-11 19:35           ` John Hubbard
2023-08-14  9:09             ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-15  2:34               ` John Hubbard
2023-08-16  7:43                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-16  9:06                   ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-16  9:49                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-16 18:00                       ` John Hubbard
2023-08-17  5:05                         ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-17  7:38                           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-18  0:13                             ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-18  2:29                               ` John Hubbard
2023-09-04  9:18                                 ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-15  2:36               ` Yuan Yao
2023-08-15  2:37                 ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-10 13:58 ` Chao Gao
2023-08-11  5:22   ` Yan Zhao

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