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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>, Mukesh Ojha <quic_mojha@quicinc.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, john.p.donnelly@oracle.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking/rwsem: Prevent non-first waiter from spinning in down_write() slowpath
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 09:19:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8b590a0-3535-51f1-3c7d-a67da4bcfc5e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221012040410.403-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On 10/12/22 00:04, Hillf Danton wrote:
>> you mean, you want to check and change waiter->handoff_set on every run
>> rwsem_try_write_lock().
>>
> Yes, with RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF set, it is too late for non first waiters to
> spin, and with both RWSEM_LOCK_MASK and RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF set, the rivals
> in the RWSEM_LOCK_MASK have an uphand over the first waiter wrt acquiring
> the lock, and it is not a bad option for the first waiter to take a step
> back off.
>
> 		if (count & RWSEM_LOCK_MASK) {
> 			if (has_handoff || (!rt_task(waiter->task) &&
> 					    !time_after(jiffies, waiter->timeout)))
> 				return false;
>
> 			new |= RWSEM_FLAG_HANDOFF;
> 		} else {
>
>> But does it break optimistic spinning ? @waiman ?
> Waiters spin for acquiring lock instead of lockup and your report shows
> spinning too much makes trouble. The key is stop spinning neither too
> late nor too early. My proposal is a simple one with as few heuristics
> added as possible.

Yes, too much spinning is bad if we have RT tasks in the mix, otherwise 
it should be fine.

Cheers,
Longman



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-12 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <7cbf49c9-d122-30e6-68b3-c61eca63e5dc@quicinc.com>
2022-10-11 10:46 ` Hillf Danton
2022-10-11 13:16   ` Mukesh Ojha
2022-10-12  4:04     ` Hillf Danton
2022-10-12 13:19       ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-10-12 13:42       ` Mukesh Ojha
2022-10-12 13:16     ` Waiman Long
2022-10-12 13:14   ` Waiman Long

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