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* [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint
@ 2019-02-14 16:18 Jann Horn
  2019-02-14 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jann Horn @ 2019-02-14 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mtk.manpages, jannh; +Cc: linux-man, linux-mm, Michal Hocko

The current manpage reads to me as if the kernel will always pick a free
space close to the requested address, but that's not the case:

mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x600000000000
mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x7f5042859000

You can also see this in the various implementations of
->get_unmapped_area() - if the specified address isn't available, the
kernel basically ignores the hint (apart from the 5level paging hack).

Clarify how this works a bit.

Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
---
changed in v2:
 - be less specific about what the kernel does when the requested address
   is unavailable to avoid constraining future behavior changes
   (Michal Hocko)

 man2/mmap.2 | 7 ++++++-
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
index fccfb9b3e..dbcae59be 100644
--- a/man2/mmap.2
+++ b/man2/mmap.2
@@ -71,7 +71,12 @@ If
 .I addr
 is not NULL,
 then the kernel takes it as a hint about where to place the mapping;
-on Linux, the mapping will be created at a nearby page boundary.
+on Linux, the kernel will pick a nearby page boundary (but always above
+or equal to the value specified by
+.IR /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr )
+and attempt to create the mapping there.
+If another mapping already exists there, the kernel picks a new address that
+may or may not depend on the hint.
 .\" Before Linux 2.6.24, the address was rounded up to the next page
 .\" boundary; since 2.6.24, it is rounded down!
 The address of the new mapping is returned as the result of the call.
-- 
2.21.0.rc0.258.g878e2cd30e-goog


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* Re: [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint
  2019-02-14 16:18 [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint Jann Horn
@ 2019-02-14 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
  2019-02-25 14:58 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2019-02-27 14:37 ` William Kucharski
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2019-02-14 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jann Horn; +Cc: mtk.manpages, linux-man, linux-mm

On Thu 14-02-19 17:18:36, Jann Horn wrote:
> The current manpage reads to me as if the kernel will always pick a free
> space close to the requested address, but that's not the case:
> 
> mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
> -1, 0) = 0x600000000000
> mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
> -1, 0) = 0x7f5042859000
> 
> You can also see this in the various implementations of
> ->get_unmapped_area() - if the specified address isn't available, the
> kernel basically ignores the hint (apart from the 5level paging hack).
> 
> Clarify how this works a bit.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>

Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Thanks!

> ---
> changed in v2:
>  - be less specific about what the kernel does when the requested address
>    is unavailable to avoid constraining future behavior changes
>    (Michal Hocko)
> 
>  man2/mmap.2 | 7 ++++++-
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
> index fccfb9b3e..dbcae59be 100644
> --- a/man2/mmap.2
> +++ b/man2/mmap.2
> @@ -71,7 +71,12 @@ If
>  .I addr
>  is not NULL,
>  then the kernel takes it as a hint about where to place the mapping;
> -on Linux, the mapping will be created at a nearby page boundary.
> +on Linux, the kernel will pick a nearby page boundary (but always above
> +or equal to the value specified by
> +.IR /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr )
> +and attempt to create the mapping there.
> +If another mapping already exists there, the kernel picks a new address that
> +may or may not depend on the hint.
>  .\" Before Linux 2.6.24, the address was rounded up to the next page
>  .\" boundary; since 2.6.24, it is rounded down!
>  The address of the new mapping is returned as the result of the call.
> -- 
> 2.21.0.rc0.258.g878e2cd30e-goog

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


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* Re: [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint
  2019-02-14 16:18 [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint Jann Horn
  2019-02-14 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
@ 2019-02-25 14:58 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2019-02-27 14:37 ` William Kucharski
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2019-02-25 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jann Horn; +Cc: mtk.manpages, linux-man, linux-mm, Michal Hocko

On 2/14/19 5:18 PM, Jann Horn wrote:
> The current manpage reads to me as if the kernel will always pick a free
> space close to the requested address, but that's not the case:
> 
> mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
> -1, 0) = 0x600000000000
> mmap(0x600000000000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
> -1, 0) = 0x7f5042859000
> 
> You can also see this in the various implementations of
> ->get_unmapped_area() - if the specified address isn't available, the
> kernel basically ignores the hint (apart from the 5level paging hack).
> 
> Clarify how this works a bit.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>

Thanks, Jann. Patch applied. And thanks for the review, Michal.

Cheers,

Michael

> ---
> changed in v2:
>  - be less specific about what the kernel does when the requested address
>    is unavailable to avoid constraining future behavior changes
>    (Michal Hocko)
> 
>  man2/mmap.2 | 7 ++++++-
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
> index fccfb9b3e..dbcae59be 100644
> --- a/man2/mmap.2
> +++ b/man2/mmap.2
> @@ -71,7 +71,12 @@ If
>  .I addr
>  is not NULL,
>  then the kernel takes it as a hint about where to place the mapping;
> -on Linux, the mapping will be created at a nearby page boundary.
> +on Linux, the kernel will pick a nearby page boundary (but always above
> +or equal to the value specified by
> +.IR /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr )
> +and attempt to create the mapping there.
> +If another mapping already exists there, the kernel picks a new address that
> +may or may not depend on the hint.
>  .\" Before Linux 2.6.24, the address was rounded up to the next page
>  .\" boundary; since 2.6.24, it is rounded down!
>  The address of the new mapping is returned as the result of the call.
> 


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/


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* Re: [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint
  2019-02-14 16:18 [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint Jann Horn
  2019-02-14 17:13 ` Michal Hocko
  2019-02-25 14:58 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
@ 2019-02-27 14:37 ` William Kucharski
  2019-02-27 14:39   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: William Kucharski @ 2019-02-27 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jann Horn; +Cc: mtk.manpages, linux-man, linux-mm, Michal Hocko


Thanks for updating the man page!

Reviewed-by: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>


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* Re: [PATCH v2] mmap.2: fix description of treatment of the hint
  2019-02-27 14:37 ` William Kucharski
@ 2019-02-27 14:39   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) @ 2019-02-27 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Kucharski; +Cc: Jann Horn, linux-man, Linux-MM, Michal Hocko

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 15:37, William Kucharski
<william.kucharski@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for updating the man page!
>
> Reviewed-by: William Kucharski <william.kucharski@oracle.com>

Thanks for the review, William.

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/


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