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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, almasrymina@google.com,
	kernel_team@skhynix.com, 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hawk@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] shrinking struct page (part of page pool)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 15:53:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c744c40b-2b38-4911-977d-61786de73791@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC_iWjKr-Jd7DsAameimUYPUPgu8vBrsFb0cDJiNSBLEwqKF1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 10:02:59AM +0300, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
> Hi Jakub
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > >
> > > >    struct bump {
> > > >     unsigned long _page_flags;
> > > >     unsigned long bump_magic;
> > > >     struct page_pool *bump_pp;
> > > >     unsigned long _pp_mapping_pad;
> > > >     unsigned long dma_addr;
> > > >     atomic_long_t bump_ref_count;
> > > >     unsigned int _page_type;
> > > >     atomic_t _refcount;
> > > >    };
> > > >
> > > > To netwrok guys, any thoughts on it?
> > > > To Willy, do I understand correctly your direction?
> > > >
> > > > Plus, it's a quite another issue but I'm curious, that is, what do you
> > > > guys think about moving the bump allocator(= page pool) code from
> > > > network to mm?  I'd like to start on the work once gathering opinion
> > > > from both Willy and network guys.
> >
> > I don't see any benefit from moving page pool to MM. It is quite
> > networking specific. But we can discuss this later. Moving code
> > is trivial, it should not be the initial focus.
> 
> Random thoughts here until I look at the patches.
> The concept of devices doing DMA + recycling the used buffer
> transcends networking.

Do you know of any other subsystem which takes a page, splits it into
two, and then uses each half independently for DMA and recycling. A
typical packet is 1514 octets, so you can get two in a page.

	Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-10 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-14  1:36 Byungchul Park
2025-04-14  1:52 ` Byungchul Park
2025-04-14 23:30   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-04-16 10:20     ` Byungchul Park
2025-05-10  7:02     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-05-10 13:53       ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2025-05-12  4:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-19  5:38         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-15 15:39 ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-16  5:24   ` Byungchul Park
2025-04-16 16:02     ` Mina Almasry
2025-04-15 23:22 ` Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2025-04-16  5:25   ` Byungchul Park

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