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From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/migrate: fix deadlock in migrate_pages_batch() on large folios
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 17:01:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7182f2f-8ca3-4b8c-b338-99a5ebd0cad0@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04bbfcd0-6eb1-4a5b-ac21-b3cdf1acdc77@linux.alibaba.com>

Hi Matthew,

On 2024/7/29 06:11, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2024/7/29 05:46, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:49:13PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
>>> It was found by compaction stress test when I explicitly enable EROFS
>>> compressed files to use large folios, which case I cannot reproduce with
>>> the same workload if large folio support is off (current mainline).
>>> Typically, filesystem reads (with locked file-backed folios) could use
>>> another bdev/meta inode to load some other I/Os (e.g. inode extent
>>> metadata or caching compressed data), so the locking order will be:
>>
>> Umm.  That is a new constraint to me.  We have two other places which
>> take the folio lock in a particular order.  Writeback takes locks on
>> folios belonging to the same inode in ascending ->index order.  It
>> submits all the folios for write before moving on to lock other inodes,
>> so it does not conflict with this new constraint you're proposing.
> 
> BTW, I don't believe it's a new order out of EROFS, if you consider
> ext4 or ext2 for example, it will also use sb_bread() (buffer heads
> on bdev inode to trigger some meta I/Os),
> 
> e.g. take ext2 for simplicity:
>    ext2_readahead
>      mpage_readahead
>       ext2_get_block
>         ext2_get_blocks
>           ext2_get_branch
>              sb_bread     <-- get some metadata using for this data I/O

I guess I need to write more words about this:

Although currently sb_bread() mainly take buffer locks to do meta I/Os,
but the following path takes the similar dependency:

                ...
                sb_bread
                  __bread_gfp
                    bdev_getblk
                      __getblk_slow
                        grow_dev_folio  // bdev->bd_mapping
                          __filemap_get_folio(FGP_LOCK | .. | FGP_CREAT)

So the order is already there for decades.. Although EROFS doesn't
use buffer heads since its initial version, it needs a different
address_space to cache metadata in page cache for best performance.

In .read_folio() and .readahead() context, the orders have to be

   file-backed folios
      bdev/meta folios

since it's hard to use any other orders and the file-backed folios
won't be filled without uptodated bdev/meta folios.

> 
>>
>> The other place is remap_file_range().  Both inodes in that case must be
>> regular files,
>>          if (!S_ISREG(inode_in->i_mode) || !S_ISREG(inode_out->i_mode))
>>                  return -EINVAL;
>> so this new rule is fine.

Refer to vfs_dedupe_file_range_compare() and vfs_lock_two_folios(), it
seems it only considers folio->index regardless of address_spaces too.

>>
>> Does anybody know of any _other_ ordering constraints on folio locks?  I'm
>> willing to write them down ...
> 
> Personally I don't think out any particular order between two folio
> locks acrossing different inodes, so I think folio batching locking
> always needs to be taken care.


I think folio_lock() comment of different address_spaces added in
commit cd125eeab2de ("filemap: Update the folio_lock documentation")
would be better to be refined:

...
  * in the same address_space.  If they are in different address_spaces,
  * acquire the lock of the folio which belongs to the address_space which
  * has the lowest address in memory first.
  */
static inline void folio_lock(struct folio *folio)
{
...


Since there are several cases we cannot follow the comment above due
to .read_folio(), .readahead() and more contexts.

I'm not sure how to document the order of different address_spaces,
so I think it's just "no particular order between different
address_space".

Thanks,
Gao Xiang



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-02  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-28 15:49 Gao Xiang
2024-07-28 19:50 ` Andrew Morton
2024-07-28 21:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-28 22:35     ` Gao Xiang
2024-07-28 21:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-07-28 22:11   ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-02  9:01     ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2024-07-29  1:38 ` Huang, Ying
2024-07-29  1:58   ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-16  5:02     ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-16  5:12       ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-16  5:17         ` Gao Xiang
2024-08-16  5:25           ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-16  5:32             ` Gao Xiang

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