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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Alexander Krabler <Alexander.Krabler@kuka.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	"linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dennis Schimmel <Dennis.Schimmel@kuka.com>,
	Daniel Braunwarth <Daniel.Braunwarth@kuka.com>
Subject: Re: Realtime threads delayed due to kcompactd0
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2025 09:37:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5bd00d6-e6ca-48fd-a11e-c90fa9c50e05@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DU0PR01MB10385C55AEAFEBCA2575EAA77822CA@DU0PR01MB10385.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

On 8/7/25 17:49, Alexander Krabler wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 14:21, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> But another idea has just this moment occurred to me: anon THP splitting
>> is another user of migration entries.  Is it possible that kcompactd is
>> not actually the cause of Alexander's issue, but that his RT tasks have
>> (bad news! shouldn't be allowed) got anon THPs in them?
> 
> No, we don't have transparent hugepages enabled.
> (From Kconfig, this seems not even possible together with PREEMPT_RT.)
> 
> From ftrace events (first message in this thread), we know that kcompactd0
> finally wakes our realtime thread(s).
> 
> Given the information I got from here, the comment on the code [1]
> and an older commit message [2], I suspect CMA somehow influences our problem.

However, kcompactd doesn't perform CMA allocations, only compaction, in a
mode that does not include ISOLATE_UNEVICTABLE. So this is weird.

> If there is anything we should enable for better diagnosis (e.g. more ftrace events),
> we would be willing to try that out.
> 
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.16/source/mm/compaction.c#L1136
> [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?id=e46a28790e594c0876d1a84270926abf75460f61
> 
> Thanks,
> Alexander
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-08  7:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-25  5:30 Alexander Krabler
2025-07-31 18:34 ` Frank van der Linden
2025-07-31 18:41   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-01  2:46     ` Mike Galbraith
2025-08-01  9:58       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-01 11:23         ` Alexander Krabler
2025-08-01 12:57           ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-01 13:40             ` Alexander Krabler
2025-08-07 10:48               ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-08-07 12:21                 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-08-07 15:49                   ` Alexander Krabler
2025-08-08  7:37                     ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-08-20 14:29                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-01 19:27         ` Frank van der Linden
2025-08-05 14:11           ` Alexander Krabler

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