From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [DESIGN] Hardening page allocator against type confusion
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 16:27:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c36bf308-1966-48fd-82a2-a2ce6dbcf6db@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZvRogWyCrfm6WD7U@casper.infradead.org>
On 9/25/24 21:46, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> Kees and I had a fun discussion at Plumbers.
>
> We're trying to harden against type confusion, where we think we have
> a pointer to one thing, but it turns out to be a pointer to a different
> thing. There's various ways this can be harmful, which Kees has laid out
> before when adding slab buckets. eg see https://lwn.net/Articles/978976/
>
> Not all allocations come from slab though. If we free a slab object
> and the slab it was in gets freed back to the page allocator, it can
> turn into almost anything else _quickly_ as the page allocator fronts
> the buddy allocator with a stack of recently-freed pages (called PCP,
> not to be confused with percpu memory), so if the attacker can arrange
> for a page table allocation to come in soon after a slab free, it is
> very likely to be the memory they have access to.
>
> My proposal is that we resolve this "type confusion" by having separate
> PCP lists for different types of pages. We'll need to have this for
> memdescs anyway, so this is just shifting some of the work left.
>
> We'd reduce the exploitability of type confusion by using a per-CPU,
> per-type stack of recently used pages. To turn a slab page into a page
> table page, the attacker would have to cause a dozen slabs to be freed on
> this CPU, pushing this one into the buddy allocator. Then they'd have
> to cause the allocating task to empty its stack of page table pages,
> causing the attackable slab to be pulled from the buddy. It's still
> possible, but it's harder.
>
> Harder enough? I don't know, hence this email. We can get into the
> API design (and then the implementation design) if we have agreement
> that this is the right approach to be taking.
Not a security expert but I doubt it's harder enough?
I thought the robust mitigation here was SLAB_VIRTUAL
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-03 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-25 19:46 Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-03 14:27 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2024-10-03 16:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-10-04 14:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-04 18:01 ` Kees Cook
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