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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Maya Gokhale <gokhale2@llnl.gov>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>,
	Denis Plotnikov <dplotnikov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shli@fb.com>, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Marty McFadden <mcfadden8@llnl.gov>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/24] userfaultfd: write protection support
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:59:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c36071dd-da8a-22fa-8f9a-262c942fcdf4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190122031803.GB7669@xz-x1>

On 22.01.19 04:18, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 03:33:21PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> Does this series fix the "false positives" case I experienced on early
>> prototypes of uffd-wp? (getting notified about a write access although
>> it was not a write access?)
> 
> Hi, David,
> 
> Yes it should solve it.

Terrific, as my use case for uffd-wp really rely on not having false
positives these are good news :)

... however it will take a while until I actually have time to look back
into it (too much stuff on my table).

Just for reference (we talked about this offline once):

My plan is to use this for virtio-mem in QEMU. Memory that a virtio-mem
device provides to a guest can either be plugged or unplugged. When
unplugging, memory will be MADVISE_DONTNEED'ed and uffd-wp'ed. The guest
can still read memory (e.g. for dumping) but writing to it is considered
bad (as the guest could this way consume more memory as intended). So I
can detect malicious guests without too much overhead this way.

False positives would mean that I would detect guests as malicious
although they are not. So it really would be harmful.

Thanks!

> 
> The early prototype in Andrea's tree hasn't yet applied the new
> PTE/swap bits for uffd-wp hence it was not able to avoid those fause
> positives.  This series has applied all those ideas (which actually
> come from Andrea as well) so the protection information will be
> persisent per PTE rather than per VMA and it will be kept even through
> swapping and page migrations.
> 
> Thanks,
> 


-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

      reply	other threads:[~2019-01-22  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21  7:56 Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:56 ` [PATCH RFC 01/24] mm: gup: rename "nonblocking" to "locked" where proper Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:20   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 02/24] mm: userfault: return VM_FAULT_RETRY on signals Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:40   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  6:10     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 03/24] mm: allow VM_FAULT_RETRY for multiple times Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:55   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  8:22     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22 16:53       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-23  2:12         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-23  2:39           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:45             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 04/24] mm: gup: " Peter Xu
2019-01-21 16:24   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  7:05     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24 15:34       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-25  2:49         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 05/24] userfaultfd: wp: add helper for writeprotect check Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-22  8:31     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 06/24] userfaultfd: wp: support write protection for userfault vma range Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:20   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-22  8:55     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21 14:05   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-22  9:39     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22 17:02       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-23  2:17         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-23  2:43           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:47             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 07/24] userfaultfd: wp: add the writeprotect API to userfaultfd ioctl Peter Xu
2019-01-21 10:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  4:56     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24  7:27       ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  9:28         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-25  7:54           ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-25 10:12             ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 08/24] userfaultfd: wp: hook userfault handler to write protection fault Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 09/24] userfaultfd: wp: enabled write protection in userfaultfd API Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 10/24] userfaultfd: wp: add WP pagetable tracking to x86 Peter Xu
2019-01-21 15:09   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:16     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-24 15:40       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-25  3:30         ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 11/24] userfaultfd: wp: userfaultfd_pte/huge_pmd_wp() helpers Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 12/24] userfaultfd: wp: add UFFDIO_COPY_MODE_WP Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 13/24] mm: merge parameters for change_protection() Peter Xu
2019-01-21 13:54   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-24  5:22     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 14/24] userfaultfd: wp: apply _PAGE_UFFD_WP bit Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 15/24] mm: export wp_page_copy() Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 16/24] userfaultfd: wp: handle COW properly for uffd-wp Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 17/24] userfaultfd: wp: drop _PAGE_UFFD_WP properly when fork Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 18/24] userfaultfd: wp: add pmd_swp_*uffd_wp() helpers Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 19/24] userfaultfd: wp: support swap and page migration Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 20/24] userfaultfd: wp: don't wake up when doing write protect Peter Xu
2019-01-21 11:10   ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-24  5:36     ` Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 21/24] khugepaged: skip collapse if uffd-wp detected Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 22/24] userfaultfd: wp: UFFDIO_REGISTER_MODE_WP documentation update Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 23/24] userfaultfd: selftests: refactor statistics Peter Xu
2019-01-21  7:57 ` [PATCH RFC 24/24] userfaultfd: selftests: add write-protect test Peter Xu
2019-01-21 14:33 ` [PATCH RFC 00/24] userfaultfd: write protection support David Hildenbrand
2019-01-22  3:18   ` Peter Xu
2019-01-22  8:59     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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