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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 07/11] fs/proc/vmcore: introduce PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM to detect device RAM ranges in 2nd kernel
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:47:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c353466b-6860-4ca2-a4fa-490648246ddc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zz63aGL7NcrONk+p@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>

>>
>> That would work, but I don't completely like it.
>>
>> (a) I want s390x to select NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM instead. Staring at a
>> bunch of similar cases (git grep "config NEED" | grep Kconfig, git grep
>> "config ARCH_WANTS" | grep Kconfig), "select" is the common way to do it.
>>
>> So unless there is a pretty good reason, I'll keep
>> NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM as is.
> 
> That's easy to satify, see below:

Yes, this is mostly what I have right now, except

> 
> ============simple version=====
> fs/proc/Kconfig:
> config NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          def n

using "bool" here like other code. (I assume you meant "def_bool n", 
"bool" seems to achieve the same thing)

> 
> config PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          def_bool y
>          depends on PROC_VMCORE && VIRTIO_MEM
>          depends on NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
> 
> arch/s390/Kconfig:
> config S390
>          select NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
> ==============================
> 
>>
>> (b) In the context of this patch, "depends on VIRTIO_MEM" does not make
>> sense. We could have an intermediate:
>>
>> config PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>>           def_bool n
>>           depends on PROC_VMCORE
>>           depends on NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>>
>> And change that with VIRTIO_MEM support in the relevant patch.
> 
> Oh, it's not comment for this patch, I made the simple version based on
> the whole patchset. When I had a glance at this patch, I also took
> several iterations to get it after I applied the whole patchset and
> tried to understand the whole code.

Makes sense, I'm figuring out how I can split that up.

If we can avoid the PROVIDE_* thing for now, great. Not a big fan of 
that myself.

> 
>>
>>
>> I faintly remember that we try avoiding such dependencies and prefer
>> selecting Kconfigs instead. Just look at the SPLIT_PTE_PTLOCKS mess we still
>> have to clean up. But as we don't expect that many providers for now, I
>> don't care.
> 
> With the simple version, Kconfig learner as me can easily understand what
> they are doing. If it took you a couple of iterations to make them as
> you had mentioned earlier, and it took me several iterations to
> understand them, I believe there must be room to improve the presented
> ones in this patchset. These are only my humble opinion, and I am not
> aware of virtio-mem at all, I'll leave this to you and other virtio-mem
> dev to decide what should be taken. Thanks for your patience and
> provided information, I learned a lot from this discussion.

I hope I didn't express myself poorly: thanks a lot for the review and 
the discussion! It helped to make the Kconfig stuff better. I'll get rid 
of the PROVIDE_* thing for now and just depend on virtio-mem.

> 
> ===================
> fs/proc/Kconfig:
> config PROVIDE_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          def_bool n
> 
> config NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          def_bool n
> 
> config PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          def_bool y
>          depends on PROC_VMCORE
>          depends on NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
>          depends on PROVIDE_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM
> 
> drivers/virtio/Kconfig:
> config VIRTIO_MEM
>          select PROVIDE_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM if PROC_VMCORE
>                                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> arch/s390/Kconfig:
> config S390
>          select NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM if PROC_VMCORE
>                                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ========================
> 
> One last thing I haven't got well, If PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM has had
> dependency on PROC_VMCORE, can we take off the ' if PROC_VMCORE' when
> select PROVIDE_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM and NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM?

We could; it would mean that in a .config file you would end up with
"NEED_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM=y" with "#PROC_VMCORE" and no notion of 
"PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM".

I don't particularly like that -- needing something that apparently does 
not exist. Not sure if there is a best practice here, staring at some 
examples I don't seem to find a consistent rule. I can just drop it, not 
the end of the world.


Did you get to look at the other code changes in this patch set? Your 
feedback would be highly appreciated!

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-25 15:11 [PATCH v1 00/11] fs/proc/vmcore: kdump support for virtio-mem on s390 David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] fs/proc/vmcore: convert vmcore_cb_lock into vmcore_mutex David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15  9:30   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-15 10:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20  8:16       ` Baoquan He
2024-11-20  8:56         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] fs/proc/vmcore: replace vmcoredd_mutex by vmcore_mutex David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15  9:32   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-15 10:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20  8:14       ` Baoquan He
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] fs/proc/vmcore: disallow vmcore modifications after the vmcore was opened David Hildenbrand
2024-11-22  9:16   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-22  9:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-25 14:41       ` Baoquan He
2024-11-29 10:38         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 10:42           ` Baoquan He
2024-12-03 10:51             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] fs/proc/vmcore: move vmcore definitions from kcore.h to crash_dump.h David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15  9:44   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-15  9:59     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20  9:42       ` Baoquan He
2024-11-20 10:28         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-21  4:35           ` Baoquan He
2024-11-21 15:37             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] fs/proc/vmcore: factor out allocating a vmcore memory node David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20  9:45   ` Baoquan He
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] fs/proc/vmcore: factor out freeing a list of vmcore ranges David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20  9:46   ` Baoquan He
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] fs/proc/vmcore: introduce PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM to detect device RAM ranges in 2nd kernel David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20 10:13   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-20 10:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-20 14:05       ` Baoquan He
2024-11-20 14:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-21  4:30           ` Baoquan He
2024-11-21 19:47             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-11-22  7:51               ` Baoquan He
2024-11-22  7:31   ` Baoquan He
2024-11-22  9:47     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] virtio-mem: mark device ready before registering callbacks in kdump mode David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] virtio-mem: remember usable region size David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] virtio-mem: support CONFIG_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 15:11 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] s390/kdump: virtio-mem kdump support (CONFIG_PROC_VMCORE_DEVICE_RAM) David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04  6:21 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] fs/proc/vmcore: kdump support for virtio-mem on s390 Baoquan He
2024-11-15  8:46 ` Baoquan He
2024-11-15  8:55   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15  9:48     ` Baoquan He

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