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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Marinko Catovic <marinko.catovic@gmail.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Caching/buffers become useless after some time
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 13:15:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c33fba55-3e86-d40f-efe0-0fc908f303bd@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADF2uSpkOqCU5hO9y4708TvpJ5JvkXjZ-M1o+FJr2v16AZP3Vw@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/21/2018 12:03 AM, Marinko Catovic wrote:
> I let this run for 3 days now, so it is quite a lot, there you go:
> https://nofile.io/f/egGyRjf0NPs/vmstat.tar.gz

The stats show that compaction has very bad results. Between first and
last snapshot, compact_fail grew by 80k and compact_success by 1300.
High-order allocations will thus cycle between (failing) compaction and
reclaim that removes the buffer/caches from memory.

Since dropping slab caches helps, I suspect it's either the slab pages
(which cannot be migrated for compaction) being spread over all memory,
making it impossible to assemble high-order pages, or some slab objects
are pinning file pages making them also impossible to be migrated.

> There is one thing I forgot to mention: the hosts perform find and du (I
> mean the commands, finding files and disk usage)
> on the HDDs every night, starting from 00:20 AM up until in the morning
> 07:45 AM, for maintenance and stats.
> 
> During this period the buffers/caches raise again as you may see from
> the logs, so find/du do fill them.
> Nevertheless as the day passes both decrease again until low values are
> reached.
> I disabled find/du for the night on 19->20th July to compare.
> 
> I have to say that this really low usage (300MB/xGB) occured just once
> after I upgraded from 4.16 to 4.17, not sure
> why, where one can still see from the logs that the buffers/cache is not
> using up the entire available RAM.
> 
> This low usage occured the last time on that one host when I mentioned
> that I had to 2>drop_caches again in my
> previous message, so this is still an issue even on the latest kernel.
> 
> The other host (the one that was not measured with the vmstat logs) has
> currently 600MB/14GB, 34GB of free RAM.
> Both were reset with drop_caches at the same time. From the looks of
> this the really low usage will occur again
> somewhat shortly, it just did not come up during measurement. However,
> the RAM should be full anyway, true?

Can you provide (a single snapshot) /proc/pagetypeinfo and
/proc/slabinfo from a system that's currently experiencing the issue,
also with /proc/vmstat and /proc/zoneinfo to verify? Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-27 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-11 13:18 Marinko Catovic
2018-07-12 11:34 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-13 15:48   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 15:53     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 16:23       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 16:33         ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-16 16:45           ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 22:03             ` Marinko Catovic
2018-07-27 11:15               ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-07-30 14:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-30 22:08                   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-02 16:15                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-03 14:13                       ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-06  9:40                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-06 10:29                           ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-06 12:00                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-06 15:37                               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-08-06 18:16                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-09  8:29                                   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-21  0:36                                     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-21  6:49                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21  7:19                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-22 20:02                                           ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-23 12:10                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-23 12:21                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24  0:11                                                 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-24  6:34                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-24  8:11                                                     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-24  8:36                                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-29 14:54                                                         ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-29 15:01                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 15:13                                                             ` Marinko Catovic
2018-08-29 15:27                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 16:44                                                                 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-22  1:19                                                                   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-23 17:41                                                                     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-26  5:48                                                                       ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-26  8:01                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-26 23:31                                                                       ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-27  6:42                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                                                     ` <6e3a9434-32f2-0388-e0c7-2bd1c2ebc8b1@suse.cz>
2018-10-30 15:30                                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-30 16:08                                                                         ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-30 17:00                                                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-30 18:26                                                                             ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-31  7:34                                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31  7:32                                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 13:40                                                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-31 14:53                                                                               ` Marinko Catovic
2018-10-31 17:01                                                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 19:21                                                                                   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-01 13:23                                                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-01 22:46                                                                                       ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02  8:05                                                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-02 11:31                                                                                           ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 11:49                                                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-02 12:22                                                                                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 12:41                                                                                                 ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 13:13                                                                                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 13:50                                                                                                     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-11-02 14:49                                                                                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-02 14:59                                                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-30 12:01                                                                                   ` Marinko Catovic
2018-12-10 21:30                                                                                     ` Marinko Catovic
2018-12-10 21:47                                                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-31 13:12                                                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-24  6:24                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka

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