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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Longlong Xia <xialonglong2025@163.com>,
	nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, xu.xin16@zte.com.cn,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Longlong Xia <xialonglong@kylinos.cn>,
	lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com,
	mhocko@suse.com, Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] mm/ksm: Add recovery mechanism for memory failures
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:00:35 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c129e522-853e-45c7-a064-34c25e63e610@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e6500dc-723f-4682-9e37-b28bc78a2bdb@redhat.com>



On 2025/10/13 17:25, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 13.10.25 11:15, Lance Yang wrote:
>> @David
>>
>> Cc: MM CORE folks
>>
>> On 2025/10/13 12:42, Lance Yang wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> Cool. Hardware error injection with EINJ was the way to go!
>>
>> I just ran some tests on the shared zero page (both regular and huge), 
>> and
>> found a tricky behavior:
>>
>> 1) When a hardware error is injected into the zeropage, the process that
>> attempts to read from a mapping backed by it is correctly killed with a
>> SIGBUS.
>>
>> 2) However, even after the error is detected, the kernel continues to
>> install
>> the known-poisoned zeropage for new anonymous mappings ...
>>
>>
>> For the shared zeropage:
>> ```
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:29:02 2025] mce: Uncorrected hardware memory error in
>> user-access at 29b8cf5000
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:29:02 2025] Memory failure: 0x29b8cf5: Sending SIGBUS to
>> read_zeropage:13767 due to hardware memory corruption
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:29:02 2025] Memory failure: 0x29b8cf5: recovery action
>> for already poisoned page: Failed
>> ```
>> And for the shared huge zeropage:
>> ```
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:35:34 2025] mce: Uncorrected hardware memory error in
>> user-access at 1e1e00000
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:35:34 2025] Memory failure: 0x1e1e00: Sending SIGBUS to
>> read_huge_zerop:13891 due to hardware memory corruption
>> [Mon Oct 13 16:35:34 2025] Memory failure: 0x1e1e00: recovery action for
>> already poisoned page: Failed
>> ```
>>
>> Since we've identified an uncorrectable hardware error on such a 
>> critical,
>> singleton page, should we be doing something more?
> 
> I mean, regarding the shared zeropage, we could try walking all page 
> tables of all processes and replace it be a fresh shared zeropage.
> 
> But then, the page might also be used for other things (I/O etc), the 
> shared zeropage is allocated by the architecture, we'd have to make 
> is_zero_pfn() succeed on the old+new page etc ...
> 
> So a lot of work for little benefit I guess? The question is how often 
> we would see that in practice. I'd assume we'd see it happen on random 
> kernel memory more frequently where we can really just bring down the 
> whole machine.

Thanks for your thoughts!

I agree, fixing the regular zeropage is a really mess ...

But for the huge zeropage, what if we just stop installing it once it's
poisoned? We could just disable it globally. Something like this:

diff --git a/mm/memory-failure.c b/mm/memory-failure.c
index f698df156bf8..8543f4385ffe 100644
--- a/mm/memory-failure.c
+++ b/mm/memory-failure.c
@@ -2193,6 +2193,10 @@ int memory_failure(unsigned long pfn, int flags)
         if (!(flags & MF_SW_SIMULATED))
                 hw_memory_failure = true;

+       if (is_huge_zero_pfn(pfn))
+               clear_bit(TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_USE_ZERO_PAGE_FLAG,
+                         &transparent_hugepage_flags);
+
         p = pfn_to_online_page(pfn);
         if (!p) {
                 res = arch_memory_failure(pfn, flags);

Seems easy enough ...


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-09  7:00 [PATCH RFC 0/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09  7:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/1] " Longlong Xia
2025-10-09 12:13   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  7:52     ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  9:23       ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-11  9:38         ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11 12:57           ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  3:39           ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-13  4:42             ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  9:15               ` Lance Yang
2025-10-13  9:25                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13  9:46                   ` Balbir Singh
2025-10-13 11:00                   ` Lance Yang [this message]
2025-10-13 11:13                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-13 11:18                       ` Lance Yang
2025-10-11  3:25   ` Miaohe Lin
2025-10-13 20:10   ` [PATCH RFC] " Markus Elfring
2025-10-09 18:57 ` [PATCH RFC 0/1] " David Hildenbrand

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