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From: Ge Yang <yangge1116@126.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	21cnbao@gmail.com, david@redhat.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	liuzixing@hygon.cn
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] mm: compaction: skip memory compaction when there are not enough migratable pages
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:24:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c122f7a7-0aea-4fda-8621-21f765f0674d@126.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39709cd7-0de6-4247-a70a-9f81fccbce6a@suse.cz>



在 2025/1/14 19:21, Vlastimil Babka 写道:
> On 1/8/25 12:30, yangge1116@126.com wrote:
>> From: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
>>
>> There are 4 NUMA nodes on my machine, and each NUMA node has 32GB
>> of memory. I have configured 16GB of CMA memory on each NUMA node,
>> and starting a 32GB virtual machine with device passthrough is
>> extremely slow, taking almost an hour.
>>
>> During the start-up of the virtual machine, it will call
>> pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM, ...) to allocate memory.
>> Long term GUP cannot allocate memory from CMA area, so a maximum of
>> 16 GB of no-CMA memory on a NUMA node can be used as virtual machine
>> memory. There is 16GB of free CMA memory on a NUMA node, which is
>> sufficient to pass the order-0 watermark check, causing the
>> __compaction_suitable() function to  consistently return true.
>> However, if there aren't enough migratable pages available, performing
>> memory compaction is also meaningless. Besides checking whether
>> the order-0 watermark is met, __compaction_suitable() also needs
>> to determine whether there are sufficient migratable pages available
>> for memory compaction.
>>
>> For costly allocations, because __compaction_suitable() always
>> returns true, __alloc_pages_slowpath() can't exit at the appropriate
>> place, resulting in excessively long virtual machine startup times.
>> Call trace:
>> __alloc_pages_slowpath
>>      if (compact_result == COMPACT_SKIPPED ||
>>          compact_result == COMPACT_DEFERRED)
>>          goto nopage; // should exit __alloc_pages_slowpath() from here
>>
>> When the 16G of non-CMA memory on a single node is exhausted, we will
>> fallback to allocating memory on other nodes. In order to quickly
>> fallback to remote nodes, we should skip memory compaction when
>> migratable pages are insufficient. After this fix, it only takes a
>> few tens of seconds to start a 32GB virtual machine with device
>> passthrough functionality.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: yangge <yangge1116@126.com>
>> ---
>>
>> V3:
>> - fix build error
>>
>> V2:
>> - consider unevictable folios
>>
>>   mm/compaction.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
>>   1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
>> index 07bd227..a9f1261 100644
>> --- a/mm/compaction.c
>> +++ b/mm/compaction.c
>> @@ -2383,7 +2383,27 @@ static bool __compaction_suitable(struct zone *zone, int order,
>>   				  int highest_zoneidx,
>>   				  unsigned long wmark_target)
>>   {
>> +	pg_data_t __maybe_unused *pgdat = zone->zone_pgdat;
>> +	unsigned long sum, nr_pinned;
>>   	unsigned long watermark;
>> +
>> +	sum = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_FILE) +
>> +		node_page_state(pgdat, NR_INACTIVE_ANON) +
>> +		node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_FILE) +
>> +		node_page_state(pgdat, NR_ACTIVE_ANON) +
>> +		node_page_state(pgdat, NR_UNEVICTABLE);
> 
> In addition to what Johannes pointed out, these are whole-node numbers and
> compaction works on a zone level.
> 
>> +
>> +	nr_pinned = node_page_state(pgdat, NR_FOLL_PIN_ACQUIRED) -
>> +		node_page_state(pgdat, NR_FOLL_PIN_RELEASED);
> 
> Statistics of *events* used to derive current *state*... I don't think we do
> that anywhere else? I'm not sure if we make sure vmstat events may never be
> missed, as they are only for statistics. IIUC we allow some rare races to
> have less expensive synchronization?
> 
> But anyway let's try looking for a different solution.
> 
> Assuming this is a THP allocation attempt (__GFP_THISNODE even?)
Yes, Transparent Huge Pages are allocated using the __GFP_THISNODE flag.
  and we are
> in the "For costly allocations, try direct compaction first" part of
> __alloc_pages_slowpath() right?
Yes, memory is being allocated using the following memory allocation 
strategy:

static struct page *alloc_pages_mpol()
{
      page = __alloc_frozen_pages_noprof(__GFP_THISNODE,...); // 1, try
to allocate THP only on local node

      if (page || !(gpf & __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM))
          return page;

      page = __alloc_frozen_pages_noprof(gfp, order, nid, nodemask);//2,
fall back to remote NUMA nodes
}

> Hopefully also when done from the pin_user_pages_remote(..., FOLL_LONGTERM,
> ...) context the allocation gfp_mask correctly lacks __GFP_MOVABLE? 
yes.
I guess
> it has to, otherwise it would allocate from the CMA pageblocks.
> 
> Then I wonder if we could use the real allocation context to determine
> watermarks, as __compaction_suitable() is passing ALLOC_CMA instead because
> it's checking only for migration targets, which have to be CMA compatible by
> definition. But we could use the real unmovable allocation context to have
> __zone_watermark_unusable_free() subtract CMA pages, and thus we won't pass
> the order-0 check anymore once the non-CMA part is exhausted.
> 
> There's some risk that in some different scenario the compaction could in
> fact migrate pages from the exhausted non-CMA part of the zone to the CMA
> part and succeed, and we'll skip it instead. But that should be rare?
> 
Below is the previous discussion:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/1734436004-1212-1-git-send-email-yangge1116@126.com/
> Anyway given that concern I'm not sure about changing
> __compaction_suitable() for every caller like this. We could (at least
> initially) target this heuristic only for COMPACT_PRIO_ASYNC which is being
> used for this THP opportunistic attempt.
> 
> So for example:
> - add a new bool flag to compact_control that is true for COMPACT_PRIO_ASYNC
> - pass cc pointer to compaction_suit_allocation_order()
> - in that function, add another check if the the new cc flag is true,
> between the current zone_watermark_ok() and compaction_suitable() checks,
> which works like __compaction_suitable() but uses alloc_flags (which should
> not be ALLOC_CMA in our pinned allocation case) instead of ALLOC_CMA, return
> COMPACT_SKIPPED if it fails.
> 
I will send a new version of the patch based on the suggestions here. 
Thank you.
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Gup-pinned pages are non-migratable. After subtracting these pages,
>> +	 * we need to check if the remaining pages are sufficient for memory
>> +	 * compaction.
>> +	 */
>> +	if ((sum - nr_pinned) < (1 << order))
>> +		return false;
>> +
>>   	/*
>>   	 * Watermarks for order-0 must be met for compaction to be able to
>>   	 * isolate free pages for migration targets. This means that the



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-14 12:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-08 11:30 yangge1116
2025-01-13  8:47 ` Barry Song
2025-01-13  9:02   ` Ge Yang
2025-01-13 10:05     ` Barry Song
2025-01-13 11:23       ` Ge Yang
2025-01-13 15:46 ` Johannes Weiner
2025-01-14  2:51   ` Ge Yang
2025-01-14 11:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-14 12:24   ` Ge Yang [this message]
2025-01-14 12:51     ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-01-15  9:17       ` Ge Yang

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