From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH v8 06/11] dma-buf: provide phys_vec to scatter-gather mapping routine
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2025 08:08:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c115432c-b63d-4b99-be18-0bf96398e153@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251119193114.GP17968@ziepe.ca>
On 11/19/25 20:31, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2025 at 02:42:18PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
>
>>>>> + case PCI_P2PDMA_MAP_THRU_HOST_BRIDGE:
>>>>> + dma->state = kzalloc(sizeof(*dma->state), GFP_KERNEL);
>>>>> + if (!dma->state) {
>>>>> + ret = -ENOMEM;
>>>>> + goto err_free_dma;
>>>>> + }
>>>>> +
>>>>> + dma_iova_try_alloc(attach->dev, dma->state, 0, size);
>>>>
>>>> Oh, that is a clear no-go for the core DMA-buf code.
>>>>
>>>> It's intentionally up to the exporter how to create the DMA
>>>> addresses the importer can work with.
>>>
>>> I can't fully understand this remark?
>>
>> The exporter should be able to decide if it actually wants to use
>> P2P when the transfer has to go through the host bridge (e.g. when
>> IOMMU/bridge routing bits are enabled).
>
> Sure, but this is a simplified helper for exporters that don't have
> choices where the memory comes from.
That is extremely questionable as justification to put that in common DMA-buf code.
> I fully expet to see changes to this to support more use cases,
> including the one above. We should do those changes along with users
> making use of them so we can evaluate what works best.
Yeah, exactly that's my concern.
>> But only take that as Acked-by, I would need at least a day (or
>> week) of free time to wrap my head around all the technical details
>> again. And that is something I won't have before January or even
>> later.
>
> Sure, it is alot, and I think DRM community in general should come up
> to speed on the new DMA API and how we are pushing to see P2P work
> within Linux.
>
> So thanks, we can take the Acked-by and progress here. Interested
> parties can pick it up from this point when time allows.
Wait a second. After sleeping a night over it I think my initial take that we really should not put that into common DMA-buf code seems to hold true.
This is the use case for VFIO, but I absolutely want to avoid other drivers from re-using this code until be have more experience with that.
So to move forward I now strongly think we should keep that in VFIO until somebody else comes along and needs that helper.
Regards,
Christian.
>
> We can also have a mini-community call to give a summary/etc on these
> topics.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-20 7:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-11 9:57 [PATCH v8 00/11] vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Separate the mmap() support from the core logic Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Simplify bus address mapping API Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Refactor to separate core P2P functionality from memory allocation Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Provide an access to pci_p2pdma_map_type() function Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] PCI/P2PDMA: Document DMABUF model Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 9:18 ` Christian König
2025-11-19 13:13 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 14:06 ` Christian König
2025-11-19 19:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 20:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] dma-buf: provide phys_vec to scatter-gather mapping routine Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 23:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 0:06 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-19 13:32 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 5:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-19 13:30 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 13:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 13:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 13:16 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2025-11-19 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 13:42 ` Christian König
2025-11-19 13:48 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 19:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 20:54 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-20 7:08 ` Christian König [this message]
2025-11-20 7:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-20 7:54 ` Christian König
2025-11-20 8:06 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-20 8:32 ` Christian König
2025-11-20 8:42 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-20 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 13:42 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 14:11 ` Christian König
2025-11-19 14:50 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 14:53 ` Christian König
2025-11-19 15:41 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 16:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-20 7:03 ` Christian König
2025-11-20 7:38 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-19 19:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] vfio: Export vfio device get and put registration helpers Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 7:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] vfio/pci: Share the core device pointer while invoking feature functions Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 7:11 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] vfio/pci: Enable peer-to-peer DMA transactions by default Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 7:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18 20:10 ` Alex Williamson
2025-11-19 0:01 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18 20:18 ` Keith Busch
2025-11-19 0:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-19 13:54 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] vfio/pci: Add dma-buf export support for MMIO regions Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 7:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 23:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-19 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-19 20:50 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-11 9:57 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] vfio/nvgrace: Support get_dmabuf_phys Leon Romanovsky
2025-11-18 7:34 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-18 7:59 ` Ankit Agrawal
2025-11-18 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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