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From: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, axelrasmussen@google.com,
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	lujialin4@huawei.com, chenridong@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH -next 1/2] mm/mglru: use mem_cgroup_iter for global reclaim
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 11:10:36 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0c69863-52f8-44ed-8d85-97531caf4dea@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tvrspnhlo7x7gpjc4nn7f73b2qoyphkpaxlcnnn4fsxciv6bks@3dibvbs7u5do>



On 2025/12/5 6:29, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> Hi Chen,
> 
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 12:31:23PM +0000, Chen Ridong wrote:
>> From: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huawei.com>
>>
>> The memcg LRU was originally introduced for global reclaim to enhance
>> scalability. However, its implementation complexity has led to performance
>> regressions when dealing with a large number of memory cgroups [1].
>>
>> As suggested by Johannes [1], this patch adopts mem_cgroup_iter with
>> cookie-based iteration for global reclaim, aligning with the approach
>> already used in shrink_node_memcgs. This simplification removes the
>> dedicated memcg LRU tracking while maintaining the core functionality.
>>
>> It performed a stress test based on Zhao Yu's methodology [2] on a
>> 1 TB, 4-node NUMA system. The results are summarized below:
>>
>> 					memcg LRU    memcg iter
>> stddev(pgsteal) / mean(pgsteal)            91.2%         75.7%
>> sum(pgsteal) / sum(requested)             216.4%        230.5%
>>
>> The new implementation demonstrates a significant improvement in
>> fairness, reducing the standard deviation relative to the mean by
>> 15.5 percentage points. While the reclaim accuracy shows a slight
>> increase in overscan (from 85086871 to 90633890, 6.5%).
>>
>> The primary benefits of this change are:
>> 1. Simplified codebase by removing custom memcg LRU infrastructure
>> 2. Improved fairness in memory reclaim across multiple cgroups
>> 3. Better performance when creating many memory cgroups
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20251126171513.GC135004@cmpxchg.org
>> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20221222041905.2431096-7-yuzhao@google.com
>> Signed-off-by: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huawei.com>
> 
> Thanks a lot of this awesome work.
> 
>> ---
>>  mm/vmscan.c | 117 ++++++++++++++++------------------------------------
>>  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 81 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> index fddd168a9737..70b0e7e5393c 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> @@ -4895,27 +4895,14 @@ static bool try_to_shrink_lruvec(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
>>  	return nr_to_scan < 0;
>>  }
>>  
>> -static int shrink_one(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
>> +static void shrink_one(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
>>  {
>> -	bool success;
>>  	unsigned long scanned = sc->nr_scanned;
>>  	unsigned long reclaimed = sc->nr_reclaimed;
>> -	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
>>  	struct pglist_data *pgdat = lruvec_pgdat(lruvec);
>> +	struct mem_cgroup *memcg = lruvec_memcg(lruvec);
>>  
>> -	/* lru_gen_age_node() called mem_cgroup_calculate_protection() */
>> -	if (mem_cgroup_below_min(NULL, memcg))
>> -		return MEMCG_LRU_YOUNG;
>> -
>> -	if (mem_cgroup_below_low(NULL, memcg)) {
>> -		/* see the comment on MEMCG_NR_GENS */
>> -		if (READ_ONCE(lruvec->lrugen.seg) != MEMCG_LRU_TAIL)
>> -			return MEMCG_LRU_TAIL;
>> -
>> -		memcg_memory_event(memcg, MEMCG_LOW);
>> -	}
>> -
>> -	success = try_to_shrink_lruvec(lruvec, sc);
>> +	try_to_shrink_lruvec(lruvec, sc);
>>  
>>  	shrink_slab(sc->gfp_mask, pgdat->node_id, memcg, sc->priority);
>>  
>> @@ -4924,86 +4911,55 @@ static int shrink_one(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc)
>>  			   sc->nr_reclaimed - reclaimed);
>>  
>>  	flush_reclaim_state(sc);
> 
> Unrealted to your patch but why this flush_reclaim_state() is at
> different place from the non-MGLRU code path?
> 

Thank you Shakeel for you reply.

IIUC, I think adding flush_reclaim_state here makes sense. Currently, shrink_one is only used for
root-level reclaim in gen-LRU, and flush_reclaim_state is only relevant during root reclaim.
Flushing after each lruvec is shrunk could help the reclaim loop terminate earlier, as
sc->nr_reclaimed += current->reclaim_state->reclaimed; may reach nr_to_reclaim sooner.

That said, I'm also wondering whether we should apply flush_reclaim_state for every iteration in
non-MGLLU reclaim as well. For non-root reclaim, it should be negligible since it effectively does
nothing. But for root-level reclaim under non-MGLRU, it might similarly help stop the iteration earlier.

>> -
>> -	if (success && mem_cgroup_online(memcg))
>> -		return MEMCG_LRU_YOUNG;
>> -
>> -	if (!success && lruvec_is_sizable(lruvec, sc))
>> -		return 0;
>> -
>> -	/* one retry if offlined or too small */
>> -	return READ_ONCE(lruvec->lrugen.seg) != MEMCG_LRU_TAIL ?
>> -	       MEMCG_LRU_TAIL : MEMCG_LRU_YOUNG;
>>  }
>>  
>>  static void shrink_many(struct pglist_data *pgdat, struct scan_control *sc)
> 
> This function kind of become very similar to shrink_node_memcgs()
> function other than shrink_one vs shrink_lruvec. Can you try to combine
> them and see if it looks not-ugly? Otherwise the code looks good to me.
> 

Will try to.

-- 
Best regards,
Ridong



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-08  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-04 12:31 [RFC PATCH -next 0/2] mm/mglru: remove memcg lru Chen Ridong
2025-12-04 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH -next 1/2] mm/mglru: use mem_cgroup_iter for global reclaim Chen Ridong
2025-12-04 18:28   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-04 22:29   ` Shakeel Butt
2025-12-08  2:26     ` Chen Ridong
2025-12-08  3:10     ` Chen Ridong [this message]
2025-12-04 12:31 ` [RFC PATCH -next 2/2] mm/mglru: remove memcg lru Chen Ridong
2025-12-04 18:34   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-12-05  2:57     ` [RFC PATCH -next 1/2] mm/mglru: use mem_cgroup_iter for global reclaim zhongjinji
2025-12-08  2:35       ` Chen Ridong

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