From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 16:09:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c09f2c10-516c-43b9-81a6-cc77e5f78ba8@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba27d41a-2109-4c89-83ce-00ba8b78d249@suse.cz>
Andrew - could we change the commit message to:
-->
It is confusing to have __vma_start_exclude_readers() return 0, 1 or an
error (but only when waiting for readers in TASK_KILLABLE state), and
having the return value be stored in a stack variable called 'locked' is
further confusion.
More generally, we are doing a lot of rather finnicky things during the
acquisition of a state in which readers are excluded and moving out of this
state, including tracking whether we are detached or not or whether an
error occurred.
We are implementing logic in __vma_start_exclude_readers() that effectively
acts as if 'if one caller calls us do X, if another then do Y', which is
very confusing from a control flow perspective.
Introducing the shared helper object state helps us avoid this, as we can
now handle the 'an error arose but we're detached' condition correctly in
both callers - a warning if not detaching, and treating the situation as if
no error arose in the case of a VMA detaching.
This also acts to help document what's going on and allows us to add some
more logical debug asserts.
Also update vma_mark_detached() to add a guard clause for the likely
'already detached' state (given we hold the mmap write lock), and add a
comment about ephemeral VMA read lock reference count increments to clarify
why we are entering/exiting an exclusive locked state here.
Finally, separate vma_mark_detached() into its fast-path component and make
it inline, then place the slow path for excluding readers in mmap_lock.c.
No functional change intended.
<--
Please as per Vlasta's comments below? Thanks!
Also could you sed the patch with:
s/__vma_exit_exclusive_locked/__vma_end_exclude_readers/
s/__vma_[enter, exit]_exclusive_locked/__vma_[start, end]_exclude_readers/
As per Vlasta's comments below?
As I have clearly forgotten to do this bit myself... doh!
Also at the bottom there is one small correction to a comment there too.
If it's too much of a pain I can sort out a fix-patch.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 12:16:07PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 1/23/26 21:12, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > It is confusing to have __vma_enter_exclusive_locked() return 0, 1 or an
>
> It's now __vma_start_exclude_readers()
>
> > error (but only when waiting for readers in TASK_KILLABLE state), and
> > having the return value be stored in a stack variable called 'locked' is
> > further confusion.
> >
> > More generally, we are doing a lock of rather finnicky things during the
>
> ^ lot?
>
> > acquisition of a state in which readers are excluded and moving out of this
> > state, including tracking whether we are detached or not or whether an
> > error occurred.
> >
> > We are implementing logic in __vma_enter_exclusive_locked() that
>
> again __vma_start_exclude_readers()
>
> > effectively acts as if 'if one caller calls us do X, if another then do Y',
> > which is very confusing from a control flow perspective.
> >
> > Introducing the shared helper object state helps us avoid this, as we can
> > now handle the 'an error arose but we're detached' condition correctly in
> > both callers - a warning if not detaching, and treating the situation as if
> > no error arose in the case of a VMA detaching.
> >
> > This also acts to help document what's going on and allows us to add some
> > more logical debug asserts.
> >
> > Also update vma_mark_detached() to add a guard clause for the likely
> > 'already detached' state (given we hold the mmap write lock), and add a
> > comment about ephemeral VMA read lock reference count increments to clarify
> > why we are entering/exiting an exclusive locked state here.
> >
> > Finally, separate vma_mark_detached() into its fast-path component and make
> > it inline, then place the slow path for excluding readers in mmap_lock.c.
> >
> > No functional change intended.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
>
> Reviewed-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>
> Great improvement, thanks.
Thanks! I will refrain from saying thanks on all of your tags without nits
btw to save the noise ;)
Addressed nits above/below with kind plea to Andrew to fix up my typos :)
Cheers, Lorenzo
>
> Just some more nits wrt naming.
>
> > ---
> > include/linux/mm_types.h | 14 ++--
> > include/linux/mmap_lock.h | 23 +++++-
> > mm/mmap_lock.c | 152 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > 3 files changed, 112 insertions(+), 77 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > index 12281a1128c9..ca47a5d3d71e 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> > @@ -1011,15 +1011,15 @@ struct vm_area_struct {
> > * decrementing it again.
> > *
> > * VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG - Detached, pending
> > - * __vma_exit_locked() completion which will decrement the reference
> > - * count to zero. IMPORTANT - at this stage no further readers can
> > - * increment the reference count. It can only be reduced.
> > + * __vma_exit_exclusive_locked() completion which will decrement the
>
> __vma_end_exclude_readers()
>
> > + * reference count to zero. IMPORTANT - at this stage no further readers
> > + * can increment the reference count. It can only be reduced.
> > *
> > * VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1 - A thread is either write-locking
> > - * an attached VMA and has yet to invoke __vma_exit_locked(), OR a
> > - * thread is detaching a VMA and is waiting on a single spurious reader
> > - * in order to decrement the reference count. IMPORTANT - as above, no
> > - * further readers can increment the reference count.
> > + * an attached VMA and has yet to invoke __vma_exit_exclusive_locked(),
>
> __vma_end_exclude_readers()
>
> (also strictly speaking, these would belong to the previous patch, but not
> worth the trouble moving)
>
> > + * OR a thread is detaching a VMA and is waiting on a single spurious
> > + * reader in order to decrement the reference count. IMPORTANT - as
> > + * above, no further readers can increment the reference count.
> > *
> > * > VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG + 1 - A thread is either
> > * write-locking or detaching a VMA is waiting on readers to
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mmap_lock.h b/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > index d6df6aad3e24..678f90080fa6 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mmap_lock.h
> > @@ -358,7 +358,28 @@ static inline void vma_mark_attached(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > refcount_set_release(&vma->vm_refcnt, 1);
> > }
> >
> > -void vma_mark_detached(struct vm_area_struct *vma);
> > +void __vma_exclude_readers_for_detach(struct vm_area_struct *vma);
> > +
> > +static inline void vma_mark_detached(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > +{
> > + vma_assert_write_locked(vma);
> > + vma_assert_attached(vma);
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * The VMA still being attached (refcnt > 0) - is unlikely, because the
> > + * vma has been already write-locked and readers can increment vm_refcnt
> > + * only temporarily before they check vm_lock_seq, realize the vma is
> > + * locked and drop back the vm_refcnt. That is a narrow window for
> > + * observing a raised vm_refcnt.
> > + *
> > + * See the comment describing the vm_area_struct->vm_refcnt field for
> > + * details of possible refcnt values.
> > + */
> > + if (likely(!__vma_refcount_put_return(vma)))
> > + return;
> > +
> > + __vma_exclude_readers_for_detach(vma);
> > +}
> >
> > struct vm_area_struct *lock_vma_under_rcu(struct mm_struct *mm,
> > unsigned long address);
> > diff --git a/mm/mmap_lock.c b/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > index 72f15f606093..b523a3fe110c 100644
> > --- a/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > +++ b/mm/mmap_lock.c
> > @@ -46,20 +46,38 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mmap_lock_do_trace_released);
> > #ifdef CONFIG_MMU
> > #ifdef CONFIG_PER_VMA_LOCK
> >
> > +/* State shared across __vma_[enter, exit]_exclusive_locked(). */
>
> __vma_[start,end]_exclude_readers
>
> > +struct vma_exclude_readers_state {
> > + /* Input parameters. */
> > + struct vm_area_struct *vma;
> > + int state; /* TASK_KILLABLE or TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE. */
> > + bool detaching;
> > +
> > + /* Output parameters. */
> > + bool detached;
> > + bool exclusive; /* Are we exclusively locked? */
> > +};
> > +
> > /*
> > * Now that all readers have been evicted, mark the VMA as being out of the
> > * 'exclude readers' state.
> > - *
> > - * Returns true if the VMA is now detached, otherwise false.
> > */
> > -static bool __must_check __vma_end_exclude_readers(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > +static void __vma_end_exclude_readers(struct vma_exclude_readers_state *ves)
> > {
> > - bool detached;
> > + struct vm_area_struct *vma = ves->vma;
> >
> > - detached = refcount_sub_and_test(VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG,
> > - &vma->vm_refcnt);
> > + VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(ves->detached);
> > +
> > + ves->detached = refcount_sub_and_test(VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG,
> > + &vma->vm_refcnt);
> > __vma_lockdep_release_exclusive(vma);
> > - return detached;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static unsigned int get_target_refcnt(struct vma_exclude_readers_state *ves)
> > +{
> > + const unsigned int tgt = ves->detaching ? 0 : 1;
> > +
> > + return tgt | VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG;
> > }
> >
> > /*
> > @@ -69,32 +87,29 @@ static bool __must_check __vma_end_exclude_readers(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > * Note that this function pairs with vma_refcount_put() which will wake up this
> > * thread when it detects that the last reader has released its lock.
> > *
> > - * The state parameter ought to be set to TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE in cases where we
> > - * wish the thread to sleep uninterruptibly or TASK_KILLABLE if a fatal signal
> > - * is permitted to kill it.
> > + * The ves->state parameter ought to be set to TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE in cases
> > + * where we wish the thread to sleep uninterruptibly or TASK_KILLABLE if a fatal
> > + * signal is permitted to kill it.
> > *
> > - * The function will return 0 immediately if the VMA is detached, or wait for
> > - * readers and return 1 once they have all exited, leaving the VMA exclusively
> > - * locked.
> > + * The function sets the ves->exclusive parameter to true if readers were
> > + * excluded, or false if the VMA was detached or an error arose on wait.
> > *
> > - * If the function returns 1, the caller is required to invoke
> > - * __vma_end_exclude_readers() once the exclusive state is no longer required.
> > + * If the function indicates an exclusive lock was acquired via ves->exclusive
> > + * the caller is required to invoke __vma_end_exclude_readers() once the
> > + * exclusive state is no longer required.
> > *
> > - * If state is set to something other than TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, the function
> > - * may also return -EINTR to indicate a fatal signal was received while waiting.
> > + * If ves->state is set to something other than TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE, the
> > + * function may also return -EINTR to indicate a fatal signal was received while
> > + * waiting.
>
> It says "may also return..." but now doesn't say anywhere that otherwise
> it's always 0.
Ack. Andrew could you append ' Otherwise, the function returns 0' to the
final paragraph above? Thanks!
>
> > */
> > -static int __vma_start_exclude_readers(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> > - bool detaching, int state)
> > +static int __vma_start_exclude_readers(struct vma_exclude_readers_state *ves)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-26 16:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-23 20:12 [PATCH v4 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] mm/vma: rename VMA_LOCK_OFFSET to VM_REFCNT_EXCLUDE_READERS_FLAG Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-30 16:50 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] mm/vma: document possible vma->vm_refcnt values and reference comment Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 5:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26 9:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 9:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-30 17:06 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] mm/vma: rename is_vma_write_only(), separate out shared refcount put Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 5:36 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26 9:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] mm/vma: add+use vma lockdep acquire/release defines Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 11:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-28 11:31 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 11:37 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-01-28 11:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-29 21:30 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] mm/vma: de-duplicate __vma_enter_locked() error path Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] mm/vma: clean up __vma_enter/exit_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 5:47 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26 9:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 10:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] mm/vma: introduce helper struct + thread through exclusive lock fns Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 11:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-01-26 19:38 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-26 18:15 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] mm/vma: improve and document __is_vma_write_locked() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 11:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 19:21 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-28 11:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-28 13:01 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-28 18:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-01-26 16:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] mm/vma: update vma_assert_locked() to use lockdep Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 13:42 ` Vlastimil Babka
2026-01-26 16:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 17:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-26 17:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] mm/vma: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-01-23 22:48 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] mm: add and use vma_assert_stabilised() helper Andrew Morton
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