From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: dm-devel@lists.linux.dev, Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dm verity: don't use WQ_MEM_RECLAIM
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 12:59:25 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0002bca-efa0-b0b3-9c02-268c727c989c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240905223555.GA1512@sol.localdomain>
On Thu, 5 Sep 2024, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 08:21:46PM +0200, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Sep 2024, Eric Biggers wrote:
> >
> > > From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
> > >
> > > Since dm-verity doesn't support writes, the kernel's memory reclaim code
> > > will never wait on dm-verity work. That makes the use of WQ_MEM_RECLAIM
> > > in dm-verity unnecessary. WQ_MEM_RECLAIM has been present from the
> > > beginning of dm-verity, but I could not find a justification for it;
> > > I suspect it was just copied from dm-crypt which does support writes.
> > >
> > > Therefore, remove WQ_MEM_RECLAIM from dm-verity. This eliminates the
> > > creation of an unnecessary rescuer thread per dm-verity device.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>
> >
> > Hmm. I can think about a case where you have read-only dm-verity device,
> > on the top of that you have dm-snapshot device and on the top of that you
> > have a writable filesystem.
> >
> > When the filesystem needs to write data, it submits some write bios. When
> > dm-snapshot receives these write bios, it will read from the dm-verity
> > device and write to the snapshot's exception store device. So, dm-verity
> > needs WQ_MEM_RECLAIM in this case.
> >
> > Mikulas
> >
>
> Yes, unfortunately that sounds correct.
>
> This means that any workqueue involved in fulfilling block device I/O,
> regardless of whether that I/O is read or write, has to use WQ_MEM_RECLAIM.
>
> I wonder if there's any way to safely share the rescuer threads.
>
> - Eric
When I thought about it, I think that removing WQ_MEM_RECLAIM would be
incorrect even without snapshot and it could deadlock even with a
read-only filesystem directly on the top of dm-verity.
There is a limited number of workqueue kernel threads in the system. If
all the workqueue kernel threads are busy trying to read some data from a
filesystem that is on the top of dm-verity, then the system deadlocks.
Dm-verity would wait until one of the work items exits - and the work
items would wait for dm-verity to return the data.
The probability that this happens is low, but theoretically it is wrong.
Mikulas
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-06 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-04 4:04 Eric Biggers
2024-09-05 14:32 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 18:21 ` [PATCH] " Mikulas Patocka
2024-09-05 22:35 ` Eric Biggers
2024-09-05 23:35 ` sharing rescuer threads when WQ_MEM_RECLAIM needed? [was: Re: dm verity: don't use WQ_MEM_RECLAIM] Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 1:34 ` Tejun Heo
2024-09-06 11:23 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-09-06 10:59 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
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