From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Matt Turner" <mattst88@gmail.com>, "Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Michael Cree" <mcree@orcon.net.nz>,
"Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"Michael Karcher" <kernel@mkarcher.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
"Chris Hofstaedtler" <zeha@debian.org>,
util-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
loongarch@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] alpha: Fix personality flag propagation across an exec
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:53:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bff9bd35-4d47-45fc-90c5-28b79425fc8b@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2501091953050.18889@angie.orcam.me.uk>
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, at 21:10, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
>> > So, this would be the 100% correct for alpha then which would not loose
>> > any functionality even for 32-bit binaries?
>>
>> I don't think it is correct to think about 32-bit binaries on alpha.
>>
>> Alpha never had a 32bit instruction set. But at some point it looks
>> like binaries that could not handle more than 31 bits of address
>> space got ported and someone implemented a work-around. I guess this
>> is the --taso option that Arnd mentioned.
>
> This also saves some code space in non-PIE and plain static executables
> as it takes fewer machine instructions to load a 64-bit address that is
> known beforehand to be a sign-extended 32-bit value.
>
> This is similar to the MIPS n32 ABI, which also implies a 32-bit address
> space while still using 64-bit registers for everything, starting from
> stack slots (it's also ILP32 with the `long long' C data type only making
> proper use of the full width of the CPU registers, while Alpha's --taso
> ABI is I believe IP32 (?) with the plain `long' C data type still 64-bit,
> just as with the regular LP64 ABI).
I'm pretty sure it's still LP64 on Alpha Linux with gcc. There is an
-mpointer-size=32 option in gcc for VMS, but I don't see anything like
that in Linux. The only thing that is implemented here is the option
for the linker that sets the EF_ALPHA_32BIT bit, but none of the
code generation takes advantage of the upper bits being zero.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-09 20:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-03 14:01 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-08 22:49 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-09 0:52 ` Jeff Xu
2025-01-09 8:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09 8:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09 8:46 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-09 8:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09 9:12 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-09 16:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-09 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09 17:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-09 20:10 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-09 20:53 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-01-12 14:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-10 0:28 ` Richard Henderson
2025-01-11 0:16 ` [PATCH] alpha/elf: Fix misc/setarch test of util-linux by removing 32bit support Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-11 1:17 ` Richard Henderson
2025-01-11 10:37 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-12 14:40 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-12 14:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-13 5:39 ` [PATCH v2] " Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-18 10:35 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-26 17:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-27 13:27 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-02-03 11:55 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-02-06 15:42 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-11 11:26 ` [PATCH] " Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-11 15:27 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-13 5:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-11 21:26 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
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