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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Matt Turner" <mattst88@gmail.com>, "Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Michael Cree" <mcree@orcon.net.nz>,
	"Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Michael Karcher" <kernel@mkarcher.dialup.fu-berlin.de>,
	"Chris Hofstaedtler" <zeha@debian.org>,
	util-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] alpha: Fix personality flag propagation across an exec
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:53:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bff9bd35-4d47-45fc-90c5-28b79425fc8b@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2501091953050.18889@angie.orcam.me.uk>

On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, at 21:10, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2025, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
>> > So, this would be the 100% correct for alpha then which would not loose
>> > any functionality even for 32-bit binaries?
>> 
>> I don't think it is correct to think about 32-bit binaries on alpha.
>> 
>> Alpha never had a 32bit instruction set.  But at some point it looks
>> like binaries that could not handle more than 31 bits of address
>> space got ported and someone implemented a work-around.  I guess this
>> is the --taso option that Arnd mentioned.
>
>  This also saves some code space in non-PIE and plain static executables 
> as it takes fewer machine instructions to load a 64-bit address that is 
> known beforehand to be a sign-extended 32-bit value.
>
>  This is similar to the MIPS n32 ABI, which also implies a 32-bit address 
> space while still using 64-bit registers for everything, starting from 
> stack slots (it's also ILP32 with the `long long' C data type only making 
> proper use of the full width of the CPU registers, while Alpha's --taso 
> ABI is I believe IP32 (?) with the plain `long' C data type still 64-bit, 
> just as with the regular LP64 ABI).

I'm pretty sure it's still LP64 on Alpha Linux with gcc. There is an
-mpointer-size=32 option in gcc for VMS, but I don't see anything like
that in Linux. The only thing that is implemented here is the option
for the linker that sets the EF_ALPHA_32BIT bit, but none of the
code generation takes advantage of the upper bits being zero.

       Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-09 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-03 14:01 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-08 22:49 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-09  0:52   ` Jeff Xu
2025-01-09  8:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09  8:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09  8:46     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-09  8:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09  9:12         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-09 16:18           ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-09 16:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-09 17:17               ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-09 20:10             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-09 20:53               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-01-12 14:40                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-10  0:28             ` Richard Henderson
2025-01-11  0:16           ` [PATCH] alpha/elf: Fix misc/setarch test of util-linux by removing 32bit support Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-11  1:17             ` Richard Henderson
2025-01-11 10:37             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-12 14:40               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2025-01-12 14:56                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-13  5:39                   ` [PATCH v2] " Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-18 10:35                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-26 17:15                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-01-27 13:27                         ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-02-03 11:55                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-02-06 15:42                     ` Kees Cook
2025-01-11 11:26             ` [PATCH] " Arnd Bergmann
2025-01-11 15:27             ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2025-01-13  5:32               ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-01-11 21:26             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

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